D1a: USA: Sample 005 is from the line William Presley Holder (ca. 1780/1780 NC or TN - ca. 1830, Jefferson Co. TN) > Eppa Samuel Holder (1821-1884) Knox Co. TN to Caldwell Co. MO > James Holder (1845-1900) Ray and Caldwell Counties MO. Sample 033 has an identical pattern over 25 markers, and traces back to John Presley Holder (1813-1873). The DNA evidence supports a common ancestor born sometime in the 1700s, but we still need to establish the relationship of John Presley Holder b. 1813 to William Presley Holder b. ca. 1780.

D1b: USA: Jeptha Holder (b. 1784), Pittsylvania Co. VA and Randolph Co. NC > David Meredith Holder b. 1823 > David Michael Holder b. 1867. This sample differs from D1a only at the rapidly mutating marker DYS464a.

D1c: USA: Sample 021 is from a descendant of John Holder (d. White Co. TN 1863), thought to be a son of Davis Holder of Pittsylvania Co. VA. This sample has 15 at DYS19, placing it in the D1 group, but differs from all the other D group samples by having 13 rather than 12 at the rapidly changing DYS439 marker. Sample 035 matches this one at all but marker 442 (see markers 26-37 at the bottom of the page). We don't yet know precisely how these two submitters are related.

D1d: Sample 024, also with a White Co. TN association, has two differences from 021 in rapidly changing markers. We need more samples to determine how far back these differences go.

D1e: USA: Gabriel Holder m. Rhoda Reed> Laban Rice Holder m. Armilda Lair > Jeremiah C. Holder m. Mary Ann Kelsey. This sample differs from the consensus D1 pattern only in the rapidly changing DYS464 markers.

Based on new results, we are currently reanalyzing the D2 group. These samples differ only in rapidly changing markers, and it appears that some of these changes occurred recently, probably in the 19th or even the 20th century. The division into two sets based on 16 vs 20 at of the DYS 464 markers may be a somewhat older change, perhaps in the 18th century, but both sets have samples thought to trace back to Solomon Holder, whose children were born beginning in the 1790s, so this assumption may not be valid.

Geographically the D2 samples divide into a Kentucky cluster and a cluster associated especially with Jackson Co., Alabama and Franklin Co., Tennessee (which are adjacent to each other), but neither location seems to be exclusive to a particular group of Holder families. Sample 054 traces back to northern Louisiana. The likely progenitors include:

Col. John Holder (1744-1799) of Boonesboro KY

John Holder (ca. 1749-1830) and Agnes Bledsoe of Virginia, who have descendants in Jackson Co. AL and in Franklin Co. TN

Solomon Holder (ca. 1774-1849) of South Carolina and later Franklin Co. TN
There seems to be no solid evidence as to who his parents were.

Based on the DNA analysis alone, we have divided the samples into three groups, but these don't correlate well with the geographic locations or the earliest known ancestor.

Sample 040 matches D2 over the first 12 markers, but will need to test markers 13-25 to confirm whether he is D2 or D3.

D3: USA: Bennett Holder, born 1805, South Carolina; 1820 Franklin Co. Tennessee; 1830 and 1840 Jackson Co. Alabama; 1850 McNairy Co. TN; 1850 through 1886 Lawrence County, Arkansas. Thomas Holder, born 1828 Jackson Co. AL, McNairy Co. TN, Lawrence Co. AR. died 1899; William J. Holder, born 1860, died 1899, Lawrence Co. AR.

Based on location, this sample could belong to group D2, but the DYS464 markers flag it as possibly distinct.

D4: USA: Dempsey Holder of Wilkes Co. NC
This sample differs enough from groups D1, D2 and D3 to warrant preliminary classification as a separate category. The differences from the other D family samples are in rapidly changing markers, however, so it is still possible that this family shares a common ancestor with one or more of these other families on this side of the Atlantic.

The D group appears to belong to Haplogroup R1b1.

 

		1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12	13	14	15	16	17	18	19	20	21	22	23	24	25
ID#	Group	DYS 393	DYS 390	DYS 19	DYS 391	DYS 385a	DYS 385b	DYS 426	DYS 388	DYS 439	DYS 389-1	DYS 392	DYS 389-2	DYS 458	DYS 459a	DYS 459b	DYS 455	DYS 454	DYS 447	DYS 437	DYS 448	DYS 449	DYS 464a	DYS 464b	DYS 464c	DYS 464d
005	D1a	13	23	15	11	11	14	12	12	12	14	13	29	16	9	10	11	11	24	15	19	29	15	16	16	16
033	D1a	13	23	15	11	11	14	12	12	12	14	13	29	16	9	10	11	11	24	15	19	29	15	16	16	16
018	D1b	13	23	15	11	11	14	12	12	12	14	13	29	16	9	10	11	11	24	15	19	29	14	16	16	16
021	D1c	13	23	15	11	11	14	12	12	13	14	13	29	16	9	10	11	11	24	15	19	29	15	16	16	16
035	D1c	13	23	15	11	11	14	12	12	13	14	13	29	16	9	10	11	11	24	15	19	29	15	16	16	16
024	D1d	13	23	15	11	11	14	12	12	13	14	13	29	15	9	10	11	11	24	15	19	29	15	16	16	20
019	D1e	13	23	15	11	11	14	12	12	12	14	13	29	16	9	10	11	11	24	15	19	29	15	15	16	16
008	D2a	13	23	14	11	11	14	12	12	12	14	13	29	16	9	10	11	11	24	15	19	29	15	16	16	16
009	D2a	13	23	14	11	11	14	12	12	12	14	13	29	16	9	10	11	11	24	15	19	29	15	16	16	16
029	D2a	13	23	14	11	11	14	12	12	13	14	13	29	16	9	10	11	11	24	15	19	29	15	16	16	16
037	D2b	13	23	14	11	11	14	12	12	12	14	13	29	16	9	10	11	11	24	15	19	29	15	16	16	20
045	D2b	13	23	14	11	11	14	12	12	12	14	13	29	16	9	10	11	11	24	15	19	29	15	16	16	20
047	D2b	13	23	14	11	11	14	12	12	12	14	13	29	16	9	10	11	11	24	15	19	29	15	16	16	20
054	D2b	13	23	14	11	11	14	12	12	12	14	13	29	16	9	10	11	11	24	15	19	29	15	16	16	20
055	D2b	13	23	14	11	11	14	12	12	12	14	13	29	16	9	10	11	11	24	15	19	29	15	16	16	20
022	D2c	13	23	14	11	11	14	12	12	12	14	13	29	17	9	10	11	11	24	15	19	29	15	16	16	20
046	D2c	13	23	14	11	11	14	12	12	12	14	13	29	17	9	10	11	11	24	15	19	29	15	16	16	20
050	D2c	13	23	14	11	11	14	12	12	12	14	13	29	17	9	10	11	11	24	15	19	29	15	16	16	20
040	D2?	13	23	14	11	11	14	12	12	12	14	13	29
012	D3	13	23	14	11	11	14	12	12	12	14	13	29	16	9	10	11	11	24	15	19	29	15	17	17	20
023	D4	13	23	14	11	11	14	12	12	13	14	13	29	16	9	9	11	11	24	15	19	29	15	15	16	16

 

Sample 050 has six copies of DYS 464 rather than the usual four. Family Tree DNA enumerates these as a-f in order of ascending values: 15, 15, 16, 16, 16, 20. This results in only two matches out of four with the other D2 samples (15, 16, 16, 20). However, if it is assumed that two sets were duplicated, one of which was a 15 and the other a 16-copy set, then the results can be interpreted as a perfect match. We don't know whether this is what really occurred, however. Markers 26 through 37 have been tested on the following samples. So far these results aren't very informative, but additional samples may show when the ones marked in bold diverged from the others.

		26	27	28	29	30	31	32	33	34	35	36	37
ID#	Group	DYS 460	GATA H4	YCA IIa	YCA IIb	DYS 456	DYS 607	DYS 576	DYS 570	CDY   a	CDY   b	DYS 442	DYS 438
005	D1a	10	11	19	23	16	15	17	17	37	38	13	12
033	D1a	10	11	19	23	16	15	17	17	37	38	13	12
021	D1c	10	11	19	23	16	15	17	17	37	38	13	12
035	D1c	10	11	19	23	16	15	17	17	37	38	12	12
008	D2a	10	11	19	23	16	15	17	17	37	38	13	12
009	D2a	10	11	19	23	16	15	17	17	37	38	13	12
029	D2a	10	11	19	23	16	15	17	17	37	38	13	12
037	D2b	10	11	19	23	16	15	17	17	37	38	13	12
045	D2b	10	11	19	23	16	15	18	17	37	38	13	12
047	D2b	10	11	19	23	16	15	17	17	37	38	13	12
055	D2b	10	11	19	23	16	15	17	17	37	38	13	12
046	D2c	10	11	19	23	16	15	17	17	36	38	13	12
050	D2c	10	11	19	24	16	15	17	17	37	38	13	12
023	D4	10	11	19	23	16	15	17	17	37	38	13	12

 

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