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Baptismal Records of the Children of David Faucher and Marthe des Fontaine

French Church At Threadneedle Street, London, England

 

Dimanche 27 (Septembre 1696)

Jean Fils de David Fa˙che & Marthe des Fontasne sa femme par(ain)

Jean Gr˙erre & maraine Anne le Pigot

Sunday 27 (September 1696)

Jean Son of David Fa˙che & Marthe des Fontasne his wife Godfather

Jean Gr˙erre & Godmother Anne le Pigot
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Du 29th Januier 1698/9

Elizabeth Fille de David Faucher & Marthe sa femme cordonnier travaillant

a la journŔe, demurant dans Monmouth Street paroisse Stepney

pour parain Izaac le Rour* & pour maraine Elizabeth Caro

29th January 1698/9

Elizabeth Daughter of David Faucher & Marthe his wife, working as a

journeyman shoemaker, living in Monmouth Street parish Stepney

for Godfather Izaac le Rour* & for Godmother Elizabeth Caron.

*or le Roun

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Du 30 Mars 1701

Marthe Fille de David Faucher Shoemaker & Marthe sa femme

dans Monmouth Street paroisse de Stepney Spitlefeilds hameau

parain Pierre da maraine Marthe Hervieux

30 March 1701

Marthe Daughter of David Faucher Shoemaker & Marthe his wife

in Monmouth Street parish of Stepney Spitalfields hamlet

Godfather Pierre and Godmother Marthe Hervieux
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Du 2 ime Aoust 1702

Ester Fille de David Fouchet Shoemaker & Marthe sa femme

dans Monmouth paroisse de Stepney Spitlefeilds hameau par

Henry Býcer & Ester Sele

Ester 2 August 1702

Daughter of David Fouchet Shoemaker & Marthe his wife

in Monmouth parish of Stepney Spitalfields hamlet Godparents

Henry Býcer & Ester Sele

Du 29 Ditto (Jul 1705)

Suzanne Fille de David FoucheÚ & Marthe sa femme

in Monmouth Street Stepney Parish par Francois

Villars & Suzanne Porriall

29th the same

(29 July 1705)

Suzanne Daughter of David FoucheÚ & Marthe his wife

in Monmouth Street Stepney Parish Godparents Francois

Villars & Suzanne Porriall

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Le 16 Juin 1707

Jean David Fils de David Fau Chet et sa famme*

par Jean Goubert et Madelaine sa famme*

16 June 1707

Jean David Son of David Fau Chet and his wife

Godparents Jean Goubert and Madelaine his wife

*femme

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The following six pages are copies of the original baptismal records of David and Marthe
Faucher’s children in the French Church at Threadneedle Street, London, England:

(Records of the French Church, Threadneedle Street, London, England, Public Records Office, London, England, RG4/4645, Filmed 1986 (Microfilm Volumes 1482451 and 466708, Family History Center, Church of the Latter Day Saints, Salt Lake City, Utah)

8th Entry On Page: Jean, Son of David Fa˙che & Marthe des Fontasne

4th Entry on Page: Elizabeth, Daughter of David Faucher & Marthe

 6th Entry on Page: Marthe, Daughter of David Faucher (Shoemaker) & Marthe

 

  5th Entry on Page: Ester, Daughter of David Fouchet (Shoemaker) & Marthe

 



 


8th Entry on Page: Suzanne, Daughter of David FoucheÚ & Marthe


2nd Entry on Page: Jean David, Son of David Fau Chet and his wife

 

 

Samples of Incorrect David Faucher Data in Church of Latter-Day Saints (LDS) Databases

The next pages of data are a sample of information that has been entered into LDS databases and are made available to everyone on their www.familysearch.org website. There are numerous entries concerning David Faucher and Martha Des Fontaines and many connect the Colonial Fanchers to them as their children. Unfortunately, this information has been used extensively by people who are unaware it is incorrect, and who are also unaware that these submissions are not part of actual vital records that have been copied by the LDS church.

 

For example, a search for "David Faucher" on the LDS website will return the following records:

     1 Ancestral File

     6 International Genealogical Index (IGI) – British Isles

     1 International Genealogical Index (IGI) – Continental Europe

     6 International Genealogical Index (IGI) – North America
     8 Pedigree Resource Files

In this total of 22 records found for "David Faucher" – all 22 have errors.

Of the 14 records for "David Fancher" found in the IGI – British Isles, all 14 have errors, and each one mistakenly links him, in one way or another, to David Faucher.

The LDS records do contain vital records copied by members of the Church, however their records also contain other information taken from lineages (Ancestral File, Pedigree Resource files, and Patron Sheets) submitted to them. These submissions do not require proofs or sources of any kind. Information from these submitted lineages can also appear duplicated in the International Genealogical Index (IGI), the same database where the actual vital records are located. In addition, a relative can be sealed ("Sealings for the dead") to the LDS Church by a member, or baptized ("Baptisms for the dead") and this information also appears as an "Individual Record" in the IGI with no required proof. Members of the LDS Church create these genealogical records for religious ceremonies that they maintain for "Eternity." To tell the difference between an actual vital record copied by the LDS and a submission, sealing, or baptism, it is necessary to check the source information of each individual record. None of the records linking the Colonial Fanchers to David Faucher are vital records. They are all submissions containing erroneous information and no source information or proofs.

The only vital records that appear for David Faucher’s children are the baptisms in the French Threadneedle Street Church, London, England. (Records of the French Church, Threadneedle Street, London, England, Public Records Office, London, England, RG4/4645, Filmed 1986 (Microfilm Volumes 1482451 and 466708, Family History Center, Church of the Latter Day Saints, Salt Lake City, Utah). Extensive searches have never uncovered any further documentation anywhere about the David Faucher Family other than this church record in London. The family just disappears and nothing more can be ascertained about it. These Threadneedle Street Church baptisms do not contain the names of the Colonial Fanchers. Originally, these vital records from the Threadneedle Church were entered into the database by Mrs. LaFaun K. Andrews of Idaho Falls, Idaho when she was keying vital record data for the LDS Church. A conversation with Mrs. Andrews revealed she did not enter that they were parents of the Colonial Fanchers, or any other Fancher-related information. Over the years, the original information has been altered and added to by other people in the form of submissions.

There are glaring discrepancies in these submitted records. For example, "David Cordonnier Faucher" is the name given for David Faucher, Shoemaker. The most common error is that people have entered his occupation Cordonnier, the French word for Cordwainer or Shoemaker, as his middle name. The Colonial Fanchers, Catherine, William, David, Hannah, Richard, John have been added as children of David Faucher and Marthe Des Fontaines in erroneous and undocumented submissions.

Catherine Fancher has been entered in the same Ancestral File record twice with two slightly different birth dates and as being born in London on one and Plymouth, Connecticut on the other. David is shown twice and being born in two different places. Ester Faucher, baptized August 2, 1702 as shown in the original Threadneedle Street church record is not included in the Ancestral File.

Yet, many people mistakenly use these LDS submitted records as a reliable source of information for establishing their lineages. This erroneous LDS information had been unchallenged, and rarely questioned, by users.

Unfortunately, it has been in use for so long that it has taken on a life of its own, and has mistakenly become a "fact" in some Fancher family lineages. People create their Fancher family trees from the LDS information, never realize the serious error they have made, and then perpetuate these inaccuracies.

                               Samples of Incorrect David Faucher Data
                          in Church of Latter Day Saints(LDS) Databases

The next pages of data are a sample of information that has been entered into LDS data bases and are made available available to everyone on their
www.familysearch.org website. There are numerous entries concerning David Faucher and Martha Des Fontaines and many people connect the Colonial Fanchersto them as their children.
Unfortunately, this information has been used extensively by people who are
uThe next pages of data are a sample of information that has been entered into LDS
naware it is incorrect, and who are also unaware that these submissions are not part
of actual vital records that have been copied by the LDS church.

For example, a search for "David Faucher" on the LDS website
will return the following records:

     1 Ancestral File
     6 International Genealogical Index (IGI) – British Isles
     1 International Genealogical Index (IGI) – Continental Europe
     6 International Genealogical Index (IGI) – North America
     8 Pedigree Resource File

In this total of 22 records found for "David Faucher" – all 22 have errors.

Of the 14 records for "David Fancher" found in the IGI – British Isles, all 14 have errors, and
each one mistakenly links him, in one way or another, to David Faucher.

The LDS records do contain vital records copied by members of the Church, however their records also contain other information taken from lineages (Ancestral File, Pedigree Resource files, and Patron Sheets) submitted to them. These submissions do not require proofs or sources of any kind. Information from these submitted lineages can also appear duplicated in the International Genealogical Index (IGI), the same database where the actual vital records are located. In addition, a relative can be sealed ("Sealings for the dead") to the LDS Church by a member, or baptized ("Baptisms for the dead") and this information also appears as an "Individual Record" in the IGI with no required proof. Members of the LDS Church create these genealogical records for religious ceremonies that they maintain for "Eternity." To tell the difference between an actual vital record copied by the LDS and a submission, sealing, or baptism, it is necessary to check the source information of each individual record. None of the records linking the Colonial Fanchers to David Faucher are vital records. They are all submissions containing erroneous information and no source information or proofs.

The only vital records that appear for David Faucher’s children are the baptisms in the French Threadneedle Street Church, London, England. (Records of the French Church, Threadneedle Street, London, England, Public Records Office, London, England, RG4/4645, Filmed 1986 (Microfilm Volumes 1482451 and 466708, Family History Center, Church of the Latter Day Saints, Salt Lake City, Utah). Extensive searches have never uncovered any further documentation anywhere about the David Faucher Family other than this church record in London. The family just disappears and nothing more can be ascertained about it. These Threadneedle Street Church baptisms do not contain the names of the Colonial Fanchers. Originally, these vital records from the Threadneedle Church were entered into the database by Mrs. LaFaun K. Andrews of Idaho Falls, Idaho when she was keying vital record data for the LDS Church. A conversation with Mrs. Andrews revealed she did not enter that they were parents of the Colonial Fanchers, or any other Fancher-related information. Over the years, the original information has been altered and added to by other people in the form of submissions.

There are glaring discrepancies in these submitted records. For example, "David Cordonnier Faucher" is the name given for David Faucher, Shoemaker. The most common error is that people have entered his occupation Cordonnier, the French word for Cordwainer or Shoemaker, as his middle name. The Colonial Fanchers, Catherine, William, David, Hannah, Richard, John have been added as children of David Faucher and Marthe Des Fontaines in erroneous and undocumented submissions.

Catherine Fancher has been entered in the same Ancestral File record twice with two slightly different birth dates and as being born in London on one and Plymouth, Connecticut on the other. David is shown twice and being born in two different places. Ester Faucher, baptized August 2, 1702 as shown in the original Threadneedle Street church record is not included in the Ancestral File.

Yet, many people mistakenly use these LDS submitted records as a reliable source of information for establishing their lineages. This erroneous LDS information had been unchallenged, and rarely questioned, by users.

Unfortunately, it has been in use for so long that it has taken on a life of its own, and has
mistakenly become a "fact" in some Fancher family lineages. People create their Fancher
family trees from the LDS information, never realize the serious error they have made,
and then perpetuate these inaccuracies.

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