Unsolved Mysteries

Every researcher comes across some names in their research, which puzzle the researcher. They may have been one of their children’s sponsors?  Enumerated with them on the census?  Came up in a discussion with relative?...etc? How was this person relevant to the family?  In some cases, following these mysterious people have uncovered a bundle of genealogical information, I would not otherwise have found.

Below is my miscellaneous research to-do’s list – followed by my 2 main mysteries?  Then we always have the unknown individual who shows up in our ancestor’s life. 

MANNING clan - Place of Origin Mystery

 

My biggest unsolved mystery is where did the Manning family originate from. – some say Kerry – some say Cork – but where is the proof???  Checked the Mallow Heritage center and found no hits.

 

Descendants of John and Ellen Manning

                                   

 

      1    John Manning  b: Abt. 1808 Ireland                 

..          +Ellen Cohane b: Abt. 1808 Ireland      m: Bef. 1828 in Ireland

..... 2    Johanna Manning        b: 1828 Ireland             d: 22 Jan 1903 in Boston MA

..... 2    Dennis Manning           b: 1831 Ireland             d: 28 Nov 1868 in Boston MA

..... 2    John Manning  b: 1832 Ireland             d: 18 Mar 1888 in Boston MA

.........   +Elizabeth McCann      b: Dec 1838 Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada     

                        m: 20 Apr 1873 in Boston MA   d: 28 Dec 1925 in Boston MA

.............3  Ellen Teresa Manning         b: 06 Mar 1874 Boston MA  d: 22 Mar 1961 in Boston

.................+Joseph Keaney     b: 1871 Ireland m: 21 Apr 1901 in Boston MA  

                                    d: 07 Jul 1927 in Boston MA

.............3  John Joseph Manning         b: 22 Mar 1876 Boston MA d: 14 Oct 1961 in Boston

.................+Catherine Mary Maloney  b: 02 Jul 1878 New York m: 24 Nov 1901 Boston                                                     d: 06 Feb 1967 in Boston MA

..... 2    Jeremiah Manning      b: 1835 Ireland             d: 29 Mar 1896 in Boston, MA

.........   +Margaret Cronan       b: Nov 1839 Ireland      m: Bef. 1869 in Ireland

                        d: 20 Jan 1902 in Boston, MA

.............3  John Leo Manning  b: Feb 1870 London, England  d: 14 Jun 1935 in Dorchester

.................+Mary Josephine Barry       b: Mar 1881 Boston MA           

                                    m: 05 Sep 1909 in Boston, MA  d: 21 Oct 1917 in Dorchester, MA

.............3  Ellen Frances Manning       b: 01 Apr 1873 Boston, MA d: 07 Aug 1936 in Boston

.................+Daniel Thomas Donahoe  b: 13 Jan 1868 Boston, MA      

                                    m: 26 Jan 1893 in Boston, MA  d: 29 May 1947 in Boston, MA

.............3  Jerimiah Manning   b: 20 Nov 1878 Boston, MA d: 25 Sep 1883 in Boston, MA

..... 2    Ann Manning   b: 12 Jan 1838 Ireland              d: 26 Sep 1908 in Boston MA

 

 

What do I know:

1.        5 siblings arrived in Boston at different times

1.        Johanna Manning (1828 – 1903)

§          Immigrated before 1869 – possibly with brother Dennis and John

§          Single never married

§          Bought a deed for cemetery November 30 1868 in Calvary Cemetery where she and her sister are buried

§          Made out a will leaving everything to Anna Manning

§          Resided   1868 - 1902 3379 Washington St, Jamaica Plains

2.        Dennis Manning (1831 – 1868)

·         Name: Denis Manning Arrival Date: 30 Apr 1866 Age: 26 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Gender: Male Port of Departure: Queenstown, Ireland and Liverpool, England Ship Name: Bosphorus Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts – he arrived with John age 25 and ? age 28

§           is noted on Johanna Mannings headstone of dying in 1869

§          No body is buried in the plot

§          Resided

·          1868         90 Cove St. Boston, MA

§          Death record of Dennis Manning living at 90 Cove St who died in  Nov 28, 1868 in Boston.– age 30 male single, born in Ireland, Laborer -  died of Phithis – parents John and Ellen Manning

3.        John Manning (1832 – 1888)

§          Immigrated possibly with brother Dennis in the 1860s or early 70s

§          Married his wife Eliza McCann in Boston  in 1873 in Boston  - sponsors were David Walsh and Mary A O’Brien

§          Eliza Manning claims to have not been naturalized – which means her husband was probably not naturalized.

§          Resided

·          1887-1898 277 or 281 W. Fourth St Boston

·          1899 - 1901 593 E. Fifth St, Boston, MA

·          1905-1925 133 M. St, Boston, MA

4.        Anna Manning (1838 – 1908)

§          immigrated the 1860s – single never married

§          Also known as Nancy and Anne Manning

§          made out a will leaving everything to her 2 nephews John Manning and 2 nieces Ellen Donahoe and Ellen Keaney

§          Resided   1868 - 1908 3379 Washington St, Jamaica Plains

5.        Jeremiah Manning (1840 – 1896)

·         He and his wife Margaret Cronin immigrated to US about 1872 with their son John from England - Name: Margaret Manning Arrival Date: 21 Jun 1870 Age: 38 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Gender: Female Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Ship Name: Tarifa Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts – A Jerry age 40 and child age 1 also listed.

§          A Jerimiah Manning became an American citizen on September 16, 1872.  On this document, they list Jerimiah's occupation as liquor dealer. Upon checking the city directories I can confirm that this was indeed a different Jerimiah MANNING than my ancestor.  

§          There was a Jerry Manning, age 40, who arrived in Boston on June 20, 1870 by the S.S. Serifa.  He listed his wife Margaret age 38 and an infant Janie as passengers.  This could be the same Manning family as the date of arrival as well as the individual names appear to match.  But this Jerry Manning listed his place of birth as Scotland, not Ireland.  This in itself does not rule him out as a match.  At this time I am leaning towards that this is the right Manning given names, ages and time frame

§          Ellen Frances Manning was baptized on Apr 9 1873 at St James the Greater in Boston – god parents were Jeremiah Ryan and Mary Lenehen  (in 1870 there was a Jeremiah Ryan living at the same place)

§          Jeremiah’s youngest son Jeremiah was baptized Sept 21 1878 at St James the Greater – sponsors were Jacabus Dusey and Anna Sullivan

§          Resided

·          1873-1891         90 Cove St. Boston, MA

·          1893-1895         171 Kneeland St

·          1896 - 1899       31 Albany St, Boston, MA

·          1900                   160 West Fourth St. Boston, MA

§         John Manning – son of Jeremiah and Margaret was born in England

·         Oral history says he was a twin born on the trip over

·         John’s 1900 census says he was Naturalized – no record has been found.

·         John’s marriage records states he was baptized in London Feb 6 1870 – sponsors at marriage are William Cassidy and Margaret Saunders

·         From a researcher online I found : Greater London births between 1868 and 1872 - all would appear to be in the right "Quatrer" for January/February births; 2 in the right year.....

2.        Births March Quarter 1868

 

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Manning John Thomas W Ham Volume 4a Page 8        

Births March Quarter 1870
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Manning John Stepney Volume 1c Page 505        
Manning John Henry Islington Volume 1b Page 401        

Births March Quarter 1871
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Manning John Kensington Volume 1a Page 175

3.        Through the 4 children’s death records I have noted their parents being John and Ellen – mother’s maiden name was listed as Cohane and another one had it as Quarm.

4.        Oral history states that Ellen Manning Donahoe received a letter from the church in Ireland requesting what to do with land the family owned.  According to oral history it was given to the church as there were no other family members remaining in Ireland.

5.        The family is Catholic

6.        Distribution of Manning surname from Griffiths Valuation

7.        Cross check of Manning and Cronin from Griffiths’ Valuation

8.        There was a John and Ellen Manning buried in Holyhood Cemetery – It is not a relative with my Manning family.  The inscriptions says: In memory of our Father & Mother John & Ellen MANNING             Both departed this life Dec 15 1874                Father 82 yrs ~ Mother 72 yrs [?]      Natives of [Summuy], Parish of Rach[?], Co. Cork, Ireland May their souls rest in peace. Amen

9.        Checking the death record it lists Ellen O’Brien Manning (72) and her husband John Manning (82) of 31 Clark St Boston

10.     Checking with the cemetery we find the following individuals buried there:

1.       Mar 31 1867 Catherine Lyons age 5

2.       Aug 11 1869 Mary E Lyons age 1

3.       Dec 20 1874 John Manning age 82

4.       Dec 20 1874 Ellen Manning age 72

5.       May 22 1875 Anna Lyons age 1

6.       Jan 22 1907 Ellen Wall age 69

7.       Oct 17 1867 Patrick Lyons  - child

8.       Dec 29 1914 Edward Wall age 83

 

Searching http://www.nationalarchivist.com/ Births, Marriages and Deaths at Sea 1854 - 1890 surname MANNING  11 Result(s) found

 

year range                     event                      surname                 forename initial     gender  

1854-1858                       Deaths                   manning                                 w                             Male

1858-1865                       Deaths                   manning                                 A                             Female

1858-1865                       Deaths                   manning                                 F                              Male

1858-1865                       Deaths                   manning                                 W                            Male

1865-1871                    Births                    MANNING                            -                               Female 

1872-1883                    Births                    MANNING                            -                               Male

1872-1883                    Births                    MANNING                            -                               Female

1872-1883                       Deaths                   MANNING                            E                              Male

1872-1883                       Deaths                   MANNING                            T                             Male

1883-1887                       Births                     MANNING                            -                               Male

1883-1887                       Deaths                   MANNING                            W                            Male

 

Birth one was female – mother Margaret Manning – child born 9/28/1867

Birth 2 – male – mother Ann Manning child born 5/27/1873 named Sylvanus

Birth 3  - female – mother  Elizabeth Manning child born 8/22/1872

Birth 4 – male – father Robert Manning child born 6/23/1874

Death 1 – Edward Manning age 39 drowned 8/30/1881

Death 2 – Thomas Manning age 5 weeks 6/11/1872

 

 

CRONAN:

 

Descendants of Patrick Cronan

 

      1    Patrick Cronan b: Abt. 1821 Ireland                  d: 15 Feb 1871 in Boston MA

..          +Mary ??         b: Abt. 1820 Ireland                  d: Bet. 1880 - 1900 in Boston MA

..... 2    Ellen Cronan    b: 10 Feb 1858 Boston MA                    d: Aft. 1910

 

Ø       There was a Mary and Ellen Cronan living next to Jeremiah in 1880 census 92 Cove St– could this be a relative of Margaret Cronan Manning – from the NEHGS search on line we find these possible records

·          Mary CRONAN Self     F W W 60 IRE Fa: IRE Mo: IRE

·          Ellen CRONAN Dau      F S W 24 MA Occ:Waiter In Dining Car Fa: IRE Mo: IRE

Ø       By 1872 Mary Cronan is listed as a widow at 92 Cove St

Ø       1871 City Directory lists Patrick Cronin 92 Cove [wd 16

·          Feb 10 1858 Ellen Cronin born to Patrick and Mary Cronin of 92 Cove St farther - laborer

Ø       1871 Patrick Cronan died age 50 of 100 Cross St maaried laborer of Hemoraging of the Lungs – this is not the address that the family was living at.

Ø      In 1870 census found a Patrick Cronin age 42 Laborer; wife Mary age 43 and daughter Mary E age 12 – 7th ward page 178 Roll 644

Marriages of Patrick Cronan to Mary in Boston:

·          April 12 1858 Patrick Cronan(23) parents David and Barbara – laborer  and Mary Hogan (24) parents Thomas and Catharine by Rev H Tucker of  Vol: 119 ; Page: 30  

·          May 17 1855 Patrick Cronan(28) parents Daniel  and Mary McGrath(25) parents Patrick Catharine by Rev H Tucker of  Vol: 89 ; Page: 59  

·          April 29 1852 Patrick Cronan(29) father Dennis and Mary Glemen(25) father Edward by Rev H Lynch Vol: 62 ; Page: 49

·          Feb 5 1853 Patrick Cronin – stone cutter and Mary Fitzgerald both fathers named John by Rev J M Fenottie Vol: 71 ; Page: 12   

 

Deaths of Mary Cronan in Boston: (not available on NEHS)

·          Cronin    Mary    Boston    1885    366    248    Death    ???                                  

·          Cronin    Mary (O'Toohill)    Boston    1885    366    82    Death    ???  

·          Cronin    Mary    Boston    1886    402    ??    Death    ???

·          Cronan Mary                                                  1886        375 ??      Death image not available

·          Cronan Mary (Flaherty)                1886        375 ??      Death image not available

·          Cronin    Mary    Boston    1887    375    ??    Death    ???  

·          Cronin    Mary (Collins)    Boston    1888    393    ??    Death    ???

·          Cronin    Mary    Boston    1889    393    ??    Death    ???  

·          Cronan    Mary A. (Donovan)    Boston    1889    402    ??    Death    ???

·          Cronin    Mary (Harrington)    Boston    1890    411    ??    Death    ???  

·          Cronin    Mary (Kelley)    Boston    1890    411    ??    Death    ???  

·          Cronin    Mary A. V.    Boston    1892    429    303    Death    ???  

·          Cronin    Mary    Boston    1890    384    ??    Death    ???

·          Cronan Mary A.(Donovan)            1890        411 ??      Death image not available

·          Cronin    Mary (Glynn)    Boston    1890    411    ??    Death    ???  

·          Cronin    Mary A.    Boston    1892    429    61    Death    ???  

·          Cronin