Subject:    Rebuttal #2

Date:         Sun, 29 Mar 1998 22:39:32 -0700

From:        crownofthorns@webtv.net (JASON VANEZIA)

To:             darcyj@ix.netcom.com

 

 

Subject:    Rebuttal #2

Date:         Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:07:45 -0700

From:        garlicisgood4U@webtv.net

To:             crownofthorns@webtv.net

 

 

 

Subject:    Rebuttal #2

Date:         Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:58:17 -0700

From:        crownofthorns@webtv.net (JASON VANEZIA)

To:             garlicisgood4U@webtv.net

 

NOTE:  The capital letter “R” will refer to a particular  “rebuttal” essay.

 

1)   In my R #1, I began with the perplexing problem I frequently encounter in my research;  that is, the apparently deliberate attempt on the part of Catholic apologists to place a crown on the word “infusion”, and to relegate the word “imputation” to the dungeon in chains.  Frankly, I was left in a jaw-dropping stupor at J.D.’s tip-toeing around the theological tulips I presented, and waltzing off into the sunset as if the case were closed by his most incomplete refutation of my opening statement.  While he did manage to fill his essay with many words, I could not fail to notice that he declined to comment on my paragraphs #1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13 & 14. Moreover, J.D. brings up two passages where he says that “imputation language is nowhere to be found” (R1, P8 & 13). However, because he has decided to refrain from comment on the biblical imputation evidence that HAS been presented, I certainly don’t feel I’m being rude if I decline to comment on some of his (Mk 11:33).

2)   Debates are a good thing.  The apostle Paul went around vigorously disputing the issues (Acts 9:29, 17:2 & 11) so it is evidentally very pleasing to God when those who claim to follow Him enter into controversy for His name’s sake.  We also notice in 1 Cor 11:19 that it is even God’s will that heresies pop up here and there, “so that they which are approved, may be made manifest among you.” Having said that, I welcome all evidences to counter-attack my belief that the Catholic view of justification is erroneous, and if J.D. can “come up with the goods” to refute me, then so be it, and he will be approved according to 1 Cor 11:19.  As I see it though, J.D. has produced no such proof, but instead has beated around the bush and failed to interact with the facts I provided.  Now when it is me who is thought to be negligent in confronting an issue, I will thank J.D. very much to point this out pronto, as I do easily forget many things.  So I happen to be one who realizes his frailty and does carefully evaluate someone else’s criticism of what I say.    Having established then, that I myself am more than willing to accept the pointed finger of a friend (Prov 27:17), I feel the sting of rebuke given to J.D. above and following is not out of order at all.

3)    PAUL’S USE OF “DIKAIOO”

All the standard Greek dictionaries which define the principal NT word for “justification” (Luke 18:14, Rms 3:24-28; 4:5; 5:1, 9;  8:30, 33;  1 Cor 6:11, Gal 2:16; 3:8, 11, 24;  Titus 3:7)  are in agreement with the Protestant, and NOT the Catholic view!   The legal declaration of righteousness which J.D. so passionately rejects, is substantiated by all respected linguistic authorities such as, “The Theological Dictionary of the NT”, “The Hebrew Greek Study Bible”,  “Thayer’s Greek-English Lexicon”, and “Loruv and Nida’s Greek-English Lexicon”.

Bruce Metzger, perhaps the premier Greek scholar in America, confirms:

“It is past comprehension how someone can deny the unmistakable evidence of the Pauline meaning of this word.  The fact is that Paul simply does not use this word to mean, “to be made upright or righteous...it means “to be pronounced or declared as righteous”  (1).    The word “to justify” is clearly judicial;  that is, that the sinner, accused by the law of God, flees to the throne of grace, is absolved for Christ’s sake, reckoned and declared righteous, and accepted to life eternal.    Is my opponent aware of any of the church fathers using this word to signify the infusion of virtuous qualities?  If so, let him produce them.  If he cannot, then the biblical and historical witness is against him, and thus his stubborn insistence that justification causes us to be made inherently righteous (P #2 & 12) absolutely must be abandoned.

4)    J.D.’s  QUESTION

I am asked, “which work would give more glory to God; for Him to simply declare the sinner innocent, or for Him to re-create the sinner and fill him (infuse) with His own justice?”  (R1, P1).   First of all, as pointed out in my R1, P11,  God does not “merely” declare a person innocent and leave him there like a pebble on the ground......any more than He did not just “merely” create the earth to hang in space.  “He created it not in vain; He formed it to be inhabited”  (Isa 45:18).  In like manner, when God chooses to draw a man to Himself (Ps 65:4, Jn 6:44), He does not do so only to sit on the fence and wonder what will happen next.  This “declaration” does not come without the beginning work of the Holy Spirit in the life of one born again.  Mr. D’Arcy introduces an artificial distinction between my supposed position and his, as proposed in his question, as if I denied our inner renewal its proper place and order.  He thus minimizes and deflates my perspective, chewing down to the barest of all possible bones, while leaving the meat of my essay, which vindicates this “declaration”,  without comment.   To drive the dagger deeper into my back, he then begins building a very poor straw man that even Dorothy would be ashamed to dance down the yellow brick road with.  He says that “to be merely declared just”...  <straw man>  ... “wouldn’t fit into Jesus’ view” .... <the match that burns the straw man down>   (P #4).     But to J.D.’s surprise, he need not drive that dagger in too deep because I will be agreeing with him here.  It certainly does NOT  fit into Jesus’ view.  Neither does it fit into the Protestant view!   Protestant theology teaches that there is no justification apart from regeneration, wherein God supernaturally intervenes in a life, enables one to come to Christ and creates a new heart.  As Calvin stated, “God justifies, not only in pardoning, but by regenerating.”   (2).    I’m afraid that J.D.’s ignominious accusation that, “regeneration is something not central in the Protestant view” (P13) is a horrible misrepresentation to say the least.

5)    As far as J.D.’s question goes, since it was the blessed Holy Spirit who inspired Holy Writ, and the same has decided NOT to use the verb “to justify” to connote the re-creation of the sinner via infusion (as all scholastics will affirm), I unhesitatingly conclude that it must be the Protestant position that gives more glory to God.  As a matter of fact, it is this very declarartion of imputed righteousness to the sinner that proves He IS just!   “To declare...at this time, His righteousness, that He might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus”  (Rms 3:26).

6)   “NOT HAVING A RIGHTEOUSNESS

        OF MY OWN”   (Phil 3:9).

 

J.D. went on to sing the praises of infusion by asserting that because we are called “children of God” (Jn 3:1), “we are able to be considered righteous by the Father by our righteous acts.  And this righteousness is comparable with the state of Christ’s own righteousness (which) we actually receive into our souls”  (P6).  While it could be technically true that when someone shows benevolence, they may be classified as righteous, this does not, ipso facto, lead us to justification as children of God as J.D. suggests.  As I mentioned in my OS, P9, He would then be saying that God justifies the ungodly by the godly works produced in them!  Such is pure nonsense. Catholics have  a very difficult time in believing the gracious Lord justifies in an instant - in a moment in time - as beautifully illustrated by the justified tax collector (OS, P12).  Please notice again how J.D. sets up a boxing match, as it were, between the righteousness of the individual and that of our Lord Jesus Christ’s.  He says they are “comparable” (P6).  Granted, we may mirror (through a glass darkly) the glorious traits of His flawless nature, but “comparable” is much too strong a word.  Paul wasn’t making any comparisons when he bluntly stated he wanted to be found “NOT having a righteousness of my own.”    He knew in the life of the saints are many and varied sins (Ps 32:3-6, 1 Jn 1:8) and the obedience begun in us by the Holy Spirit will remain imperfect till the day we die, as he complains in Romans 7:18-23:  “I can will what is right, but I cannot do it.” Therefore, the confirmation I have presented here and elsewhere will not be diminished by any kind of sophistry so as to cause us to embrace any kind of an “infused inherent righteousness” (and one that is undeniably imperect at that....Phil 3:12)  which can possibly form any of the ground of our justification before God.

7)   MORE THAN THE PHARISEE?

 

“Unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you shall not enter the kingdom of heaven”   (Matt 5:20).   How in the world could any  (for lack of a better term)  “low-life”, possibly surpass the meticulous living standards of the scribes and Pharisees?  Let us return to the humble tax collector and boastful Pharisee in Luke 18  (OS, P12).  Aside from the Pharisee’s boasting, the fount and apex of all Catholic justification is personified in this man who thanks God for infusing such wonderful character traits into his soul, but the verdict of the Lord was that he was NOT justified.  Roman Catholicism teaches its flock to thank God for infusing “Mother Teresa” type charity into their souls as well.  J.D. blissfully shuts the door on this parable as a “non-evidence” simply because the Pharisee was smug and arrogant.  But is this reasonable?  Am I to believe that  ONLY because a Catholic piously humbles himself while thanking God for these infused qualities, that this makes all the difference???   There is a monumental problem with that proposal, however.  The spiritually broken and contrite tax collector (See also Ps 34:18, 51:17 & Isa 66:2) came to God with positively NO infused virtues whatsoever.  Yet the good Lord justified him immediately.

8)   J.D. endeavors to persuade us that, “the essence of the passage points to the fact that men’s (humble) hearts will be judged, not that imputation occurs extrinisically  (P14).   This statement is categorically false, and I feel our great Creator would rebuke J.D. as He did with the three friends of Job, when He said, “Ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right”  (42:7).   As much as J.D. may wish to deny it, this parable is a goldmine of support for being justified by faith alone.  The theme of justification in all its granduer is displayed eloquently, but without delving into abstract theology.  The tax collector’s justification was an instantaneous reality, based soley and completely on faith alone in what God could do FOR him, and not what he had accomplished himself (or even with God’s help). Recall the words of Christ quoted at the start of P #7.   How could such a sinner as this tax collector, obtain a righteousness that would exceed that of a pious Pharisee?  The only possible answer is that he received a righteousness that was not his own!!!  The righteousness of Christ was indisputably (and extrinsically, Mr. D’Arcy!)  imputed to him by faith alone (Rms 4:9-11).

9)   ROMANS 5:18-21

 

At this point, we need to revisit the ground of our CONDEMNATION  before we can truly understand the ground of our justification.  If my opponent is wrong in relation to how and why we were initially condemned, then certainly any remedy he may offer as the antidote for our justification will have to be rejected. Someone who is diagnosed with cancer cannot expect to be cured with a cough drop.  Please notice carefully his explication of the above verse:  “The text shows us that Adam TRANSMITS condemnation and unrighteousness to us, actually  MAKING  us sinners” (P5, emphasis mine).   Here we have the epitomy of Roman Catholic theology gone haywire.  J.D. has chosen to ignore what I pointed out in my OS, P #4, 9 & 10;  i.e. that even though Christ was MADE sin for us (2 Cor 5:20),  this does not mean that our Savior BECAME sinful, as everyone on earth will agree.  How then was Christ “made” sin for us?  The answer is by IMPUTATION.   Too, the fact that many will be “made” righteous by the obedience of the One, does not mean we will BECOME inherently righteous, as the word translated  “made” means to DECLARE.  How then are WE made righteous?  The answer is by IMPUTATION.    Since J.D. is wrong in thinking that being “made righteous” (via infusion) means to “become righteous”  (P2 & 12), he is also wrong in thinking that being “made sinners” (via infusion) means actually MAKING us sinners.

10)      THE LINK

 

While the Roman Catholic Church is correct in seeking a link between Adam’s sin and Adam’s posterity, they continue to bombard us with the enigmatic use of “infusion” as the cause and solution to mankind’s miserable state of affairs.  It is important we observe diligently what is happening here.  From the start, Rome errs by teaching (at Trent) that the ground of our condemnation consists of an inherent individual sinfulness which has been “contracted by generation”  from Adam  (3).  Notice the infusion language:  J.D. says “transmits”, “imparts”  (P5); the Counil of Trent says “contracted”.   To the contrary, Romans 5:12-21 traces back to the ONE sin of the ONE man as the SOLE cause of death and condemnation.  Hence, our condemnation is not based upon a state of “transmitted, imparted, contracted” or any other infusionary unrightousness as J.D. theorizes.  It is based on IMPUTATION.  Sin was imputed to all men on the basis of Adam being the federal head of our race.  And righteousness is imputed on the basis of Christ representing those who are spiritually alive.  Remember, on the basis of the actions of ONE,  many were constituted as either sinners or righteous. That God can choose to impute sin or not impute sin is clear from Ps 32:2 and Romas 4:6.  Our condemnation is based on nothing other than Adam’s sin immediately imputed to mankind at the time of offense.  Yes, his corrupt nature is transmitted to his posterity (as like begets like), but it is not our Adamic NATURE that condemns us, but rather, Adam’s single and solitary sin which does so (verses 17-19).

11)      THE BRILLIANT CONCLUSION

 

“By one man’s disobedience, many were MADE (declared) sinners” (vs. 19).

Not, as J.D. would have it, that Adam’s offense “actually made us

sinners”  (P5).  And just as our sins were not INFUSED into Christ

(otherwise making Him inherently evil), neither are we INFUSED with

grace to the extent of making us inherently righteous. And neither

again, are we infused with unrighteousness so as to effect our

condemnation.   Thus,  Roman Catholicism sees the sinful NATURE of Adam

infused into man as the ground of our condemnation.........and they

allege that the remedy is the infusion of GRACE to exterminate sin and

make us righteous enough to enter heaven.  I refuse this scenerio as

exegetically and historically bankrupt!    For as one has brilliantly

summarized:   “The formula is not:  One man’s act equals infusion of sin

so as to foster an imitation of Adam unto condemnaion.  Nor is it:  One man’s act equals infusion of grace so as to foster an imitation of Christ for justification.  Rather, it is:  One man’s sinful act condemns by virtue of solidaric imputation in union WITH the act.  And it is also, one man’s righteous act justifies by virtue of solidaric imputation in union WITH the act.”   (4).

12)      JAMES  2

 

Occasionally, biblical lingo may hinder our comprehension of certain ideas.  For instance, 1 Tim 2:15 says that women will be saved through child-bearing. Obviously, this doesn’t mean that women are justified simply by getting pregnant. Words may have different meanings based upon their context.  I will admit that there are times when “to justify” is capable of another shade of meaning to what I submitted in my OS, P7.  Fortunately, the meanings are closely related so this only proves my point all the more.  In Matt 11:19, Jesus states that “wisdom is justified by her children”.  But this does not mean that the “children” bring “wisdom” into a right relationship with God.  It does mean though, that wisdom is shown to be just by the TESTIMONY of her children.  The children do not MAKE wisdom wise;  instead, wisdom is shown to be wise by the children she has produced.  In exactly the same way, the good works of Abraham and Rahab (and all believers) are a testimony to an already existing faith!  And just as the children do not “justify” wisdom in the sense of adding any “salvific completion” in the eyes of God; neither do the good works of the believer justify us in any such manner as well.

13)      PAUL =  GENESIS 15:6

JAMES  =  GENESIS  22:10

We note that Paul appeals to Gen 15 to prove that by faith alone Abraham was justified before God.  But James appeals to chapter 22 where Abe was put to the test and “justified” by works.  Is this a contradiction?  Not at all.  In 22, the authenticity of his faith was simply being demonstrated.  So we see in 15, Abe justified by faith, and in 22, Abe’s faith is “justified” by his obedience, just as wisdom is justified by her children.  I must strongly repudiate J.D.’s interpretation that Abe’s WORK of offering Isaac brought any sort of “salvific completion” to his already justified status  (OS, P18). James is not addressing HOW one can be saved, but rather, how can one know that their faith is authentic?   “You SAY you have faith”  and  “Show me your faith BY your works”  (vs. 18) is pristine proof that a truly justifying faith will naturally bring forth fruit.  The works of our obedience add unequivocally NOTHING to our justification.  They are visible proof OF IT. Keep in mind that in Romans 4, it is to the already regenerate Abraham, adorned with many outstanding works and fruits of the Spirit, who Paul says was not justified by works, but “FAITH was imputed to him for righteousness.”  And if we walk in “that faith of our father Abraham...it will be imputed unto (us) also.”  (vs. 9, 11-12).  J.D. must have been speaking to a very ill-informed Protestant when he concluded that James 2 is a “massive problem for Protestants”  (OS, P18).  It most assuredly is not, but rather a delight.

14)      PAUL’S VIEW

 

I believe it is imperative we scrutinize this prime hero of the faith and see if he displayed any notion of the Catholic view of justification;  namely, does he give us cause to think that the inner renewal worked in us by the Holy Spirit is the jewel in the crown of our justification? Recall in my R1, P5, that I asserted that the “robe”, the “gift” and the “crown” of righteousness must pertain directly to the righteousness of Christ imputed. Catholicism, on the other hand, has this “crown of justice” being served to us on a silver platter, as it were, directly because of our good works and merits!  (Trent, ch. 16).  What saith Paul?

14a)    Did the apostle wish to glory in any of the infused virtues wrought in him by the Holy Spirit?  Let him answer directly:  “Far be it from me to glory EXCEPT in the cross of Christ”  ...  “I determined not to know ANYTHING among you save Jesus Christ and Him crucified”  (Gal 6:14, 1 Cor 2:2).   Now let us go back once more to the supposedly arrogant Pharisee in Luke 18.   J.D. submits that  listing off his accomplishments without a  “humble heart” was the torpedo that sunk his justification ship.  But my friend can only assume this.  It is very possible that the Pharisee could have been humble in every sense of the word.  His sin resulted by parading his works done in God’s grace hoping they would be meritorious.  This, of course, is exactly what Catholicism promotes.  On certain occasions it is apparently permissible for us to mention some of the things we have accomplished without invalidating our humble hearts. Witness Paul:  “By the grace of God which was with me,  I labored more abundantly than they all”  (1 Cor 15:10).   The difference between Paul and the Pharisee was in how they viewed their grace-produced works.  The Pharisee was looking at them as some sort of medal of honor.  Paul had a different attitude:  “What things were gain to me, those I counted as loss for Christ...I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord...and do count them as dung, that I may win Christ...and be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own...but the righteousnss which is of God by faith” (Phil 3:7-9).

14b)   Paul makes quite a big deal about how he took pains to have a clear consciene before all men (Acts 23:1, 24:16).  And what does the grace-empowered Paul say in regard to this clear conscience of grace-produced good works in the sight of God?   “I am not aware of anything against myself, BUT I AM NOT THEREBY JUSTIFIED;  but He that judges me is the Lord”  (1 Cor 4:4).  So then, Paul expressly and effectively nullifies any of the good deeds he had done with a clear conscience by the infused grace of God, to account in any way whatsoever for his justification.  His justification was by faith alone.     J.D.  makes me dizzy when he says out of one side of his mouth he agrees in the infinite value of Christ’s merits (R1, P1), but out of the other side he insists on being justified by  these very infinite merits.......PLUS WORKS.   But if the merits of Christ are INFINITE, surely nothing can be added to make it more complete!

Jason Vanezia

crownofthorns@webtv.net

Word count: approx 3500

 

Notes:

1)   Taken from the Rod Rosenblad and Karl Keating exchange in, “The

Salvation Debate”, 3/11/89

2)   “The Library of Christian Classics”, Vol XIX, Book III, ch.

XI.6,11, p. 732;739

3)   Council of Trent, 5th session, Decree Concerning Original Sin, P4.

4)   Rob Zins, “Theo-Logical” Newsletter,

First quarter, 1998.