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WHEN

April 26 (Thurs.) through April 29 (Sun.) 2001.

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WHERE

Kinchafoonee Creek, South GA unless we have heavy rain 4/5 days prior, up to, or forecast for trip days.  In that case we will switch to the Suwanee River Section we did in 1999. 

YOU COULD BE DINNER

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Researched: Combahee, Ashepoo and Edisto Rivers in the ACE Basin, SC Got info from Donnely WMA and this did not appear suitable for overnight camping in seclusion.  The Combahee, Ashepoo and Edisto Rivers in S.C. form this basin.  They are scenic and wildlife is abundant.  However after much investigation it appears that due to extensive public land reserved for hunting, camping might not be welcomed.  Literature indicates heavy kayak and canoe day trip usage.

MOTEL

Kinchafoonee

Motel town is Cordele, GA.  Take I-75 south and exit at US 280 exit   in Cordele.  Turn left and Days inn is on left just past under the bridge.   The number there is (229) 273-0448.  The rates for a room for 4 adults is $35.00 plus tax.  It has a pool.  Check in is 2:00pm, but chances are pretty good we could get in as early as noon.

Link to Motel Web Site:

http://www.the.daysinn.com/cordele05934?sid=AAACEgAAWAAAhhxAAD

Suwannee River (alternate if heavy rains)

Will switch motel reservations at last moment to the one we stayed in last trip.  There are some, including myself, hoping we are not forced to this alternate and prefer the challenge of a new stream having less traffic.  There are others though that would find this alternate attractive.

PLAN - Kinchafoonee Creek

Thursday - depart with overnight in motel,

Friday -
early breakfast, take canoes to put in.   take all drivers & vehicles to take out, return to put in with only enough vehicles to carry drivers, shove off, campsite by late afternoon


If everyone has their fishing license, bait, beer and gas all we need to do Friday morning is eat, get ice and go.  If we get up at 4:30, eat and check out by 5:30 we can be at put in by 6:00.  A 15 mi. shuttle (30 round trip) eats another
hour.  That means shove off down river at 7:00.  Just joking.  We probably could sleep till 5:00.  OK make it 6:00.  In that case shove off would be around 8:30.


Lets guess 14 river mi. to camp site.  At 2 mi./hr. that would be 7 hrs. and would make arrival at 3:30 p.m.  No, on second thought better add 1 hr for lunch, 1 for pee breaks and swimming, 1 for first aid treatment of snake or
alligator bites, and another 1 hr. for dragging around dead falls and we will get there at 7:30 p.m.  Seriously, could be more like a 5:30 arrival - just barely enough time to set camp and eat/drink supper.

Shuttle - Estimate 2 vehicles from Atlanta crowd and 4/5 from Winder crowd.  At 6/7 drivers we should be able to work out leaving only 1 vehicle at put in (otherwise 2).  Drop all canoes and gear at put in at Hwy.118 bridge out of Smithfield.  ALL vehicles & only their drivers would go to take out, Hwy 32 bridge near Leesburg, leaving others in crews to guard and load gear in canoes.  Leave all vehicles at take out except for 1 or 2 to get drivers back to put in.  By then all canoes would have been loaded or close to it and ready to shove off.

Leesburg police indicated that we can park near "Fred's Auto" in town on US HWY. 19 and they have had no problems there.  They did not know about the bridge itself as it is not in their jurisdiction.  If we did park in town it would mean leaving all vehicles there except for two.  One to leave at the bridge and one to get drivers back up to the put in.  These should be the older or less desirable for vandalism of the vehicles.  Leesburg Police phone (912) 759-6464.

Saturday - fish, explore river, tell lies, drink beverages and eat

Sunday -
Break camp early, 7 or 8 mi. paddle to take out (3 to 4 hrs.), recover vehicles, depart for home


Shuttle -  At end of trip 1 volunteer vehicle and it's crew, with immediate help from all the others, loads their gear & canoes and takes one/two driver(s) that left vehicles at put in to pick up that vehicle(s).  From there volunteer vehicle and it's crew heads for home.  The put in driver(s) returns to take out where his crew was guarding gear and canoe to load and leave for home.  In the meantime all the other drivers at the take out would have loaded their gear and canoes and would have been headed home.  Variation:  If the driver recovering the vehicle from the put in does not have crew left behind to guard his canoe and gear then 1 additional vehicle and crew would remain until his return to guard boat(s) and gear. 

That would only delay 1driver and crew that left vehicle at put in and possibly 1 driver/crew remaining at take out guarding.  If 1 did remain at take out for the put in driver to return to take, he would already be packed, loaded and ready to depart for home.  So 1 driver and crew inconvenienced the most and possibly another driver and crew somewhat less.  All the others pretty much load and leave the take out site right away.  Two things regarding the volunteer vehicle/crew that takes driver(s) to put in to pick up that vehicle:  1) everyone pitches in immediately to get the volunteer vehicle packed and loaded so it can get going and 2)  It is headed north to put in so it looses little time.

Variation;  If we leave vehicles at Fred's Auto in Leesburg we will need take vehicle at take out and run drivers over there to pick up vehicles to bring back to take out - about 1 mi. distance.

ALTERNATE PLAN - Suwanee River

Only if Kinchafoonee Creek is up so high as to present a camping or safety problem.
Plan would be much the same as described for the Kinchafoonee.  Put in is a commercial outfitter site and has a launch and parking fee.  Maybe only one vehicle would be left there.  Take out is at a State Park where most vehicles would be parked.  Think there is a parking fee there too.  Good vehicle security.   Easy launch and take out.  Fishing was poor on this river last trip.   Interesting Springs and rock formations.  Traffic on river more than desired.   Few camp sites - one about 5/8 and another about 7/8.  If already captured by others could present a camping problem.  Checked upper section and there is one stretch called "Big Shoals" that would require a 3/4 to 1 mile portage (that is a long drag) and could be faced with water too low in other stretches.  Info came from outfitter at White Springs.  Other descriptions on the web indicated good camping and more solitude but all noted the portage at Big Shoals as an obstacle. 

PARTICIPANTS

Group Leader Group
Members
Canoes Rooms # in
Party
Comments
Rick Johnson and Leroy Moon 1 1 2
Johnson # 2 son Beau - solo 1 ? 1
Johnathan & Richard Harbinson 1 ? 2
John Mullinax and uncle Grady Mullins 1 1 2
Mike Mingus son Brian, 1 1 4 NO SMOKING
Jerry & Shannon Clack 1
Mingus # 2 Jon Gleason & Charlie Greeson 1  

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10

Mike M. says folks in this group will make their own motel reservations.
Josh Power & a friend 1
Will Holbrook & Clint Greeson 1
Justin Grant & Elton Lynn

1

Derrick Jones & John Owen

1

Totals ==
11
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5/??
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21

FOOD and GEAR

C = buy in Cordele, P = pre-cook

FOOD

FOOD MEALS
Condiments Fri. Breakfast

04/27/01 - W. House

salt Lunch
pepper

C

sandwich from deli
garlic drinks
sugar 9 spoons chips
mayonnaise squeeze pks. Dinner
mustard squeeze pks. steak frozen at home
Soft Goods salad
chips 2 small bags

P

potato pre-cooked
chips med. bag asparagus from home
sliced bread 8 slices drink Crystal Light
English muffins 1 pkg. English muffin buttered
Drink Stuff Sat. Breakfast

09/03/00

Crystal light for 2 quarts

P

boiled egg buttered
soft drink 2 lg.  bottles

P

bacon pre-cooked
coffee 6 spoons English muffin buttered
DRY GOODS coffee jam bl. berry
lemon 1 syrup on ham
apple sauce 4 mini pks. Lunch
pancake mix 1 shake bottle BLT - sandwich from cafe/deli
macaroni 1 pkg. drink Crystal Light
syrup sm. plastic bot. Dinner
Vienna sausage 1 can

P

pork chops pre-cooked
oatmeal 4  pks.

P

macaroni boil -n- bag
potted meat 2 cans apple sauce
kipper fish 1 can green peas
bananas 3 English muffin buttered
oranges 2 drink Crystal Light
apple 2 Sun. Breakfast

09/04/00

onion 1 large Oat meal buttered
potato 2 med.

P

country ham pre-cooked
green peas 1 can English muffin
Water 2 jugs coffee
COOL-GOODS jam blue berry
Country Ham 1 pkg. pre cooked P
boiled eggs 4 P
bacon 1 lb. pre-cook P
pork chops 6 thin cooked P
sub-sandwich C
steak 2 nice lg. filets
asparagus 1/2 lb.
lettuce 1 head.
tomatoes 3 roma size
jam 1 sm. jar
salad dressing 1 plastic bot.
summer sausage 1 pkgs.
butter 1 spray bottle
cheese 1 slab
Snacks
raisins sm. baggie
nuts sm. baggie
candy bars fun size
tequila 1 flask
beef jerky
slim jims
cheese
crackers

CAMP GEAR

Shelter/Other Cooking Personal
Tent - 2
Tarps - 3
Spool of Cord
Ground Cloth
Sleeping Bag
Sleeping Pad - 2
Chair - 2
Lantern
Stuff Bags
Knit Ditty bag
2 Stoves
Fuel - 5 canisters
Fire Starter
cigarette lighter
cooking set
pot scrubber
deep pans 2 aluminum
small grill top
charcoal
Rags for pot holder cleaning etc.
Knives
tooth brush
tooth paste
liquid soap
whistle
compass
maps
small light
eye glasses
mole skin
aspirin/codeine
toilet paper
pocket
slicer
utility
Eating Utensils
aluminum foil
spoons, forks, knives - plastic
paper towels, plates, cups
coffee mug
coffee filter

CLOTHING

Rain Cold Every Day
Poncho
hat
fleece jacket
long undershirt
Shirts - 2
Pants - 2 (1 L. 1 S.)
socks - cotton - 3
underwear - 3
T - shirts - 3
hat/cap
Belt
GPS/Maps
Foot Wear
Other
Tennis shoes or sandals Sun Screen
Bug repellent, sun glasses

FISHING & CANOE

Rods & Reels Vest Flies/Lures/Bait
5' spinning
Daiwa - spinning
hemostat, magnifying glass,
clippers, tip line, skeeter net,
strike indicators, weights,
floats, hooks, swivels,
multitool, sun screen

crickets
worms
Canoe
2 life jackets
2 paddles

DIRECTIONS TO RIVER AREA

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Drive Distance

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Kinchafoonee Creek
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Atlanta
Atlanta - Macon 81.  I-75 South to north of Macon and bear right on I-474 Macon by-pass then merge back on to I-75
Macon - Cordele 69.  Keep on I-75
Cordele - put in 31 total 181.  Take US 280 West out of Cordele then Left on GA 118 on through town of Smithfield and on to put in.
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Winder
Winder - Macon 87.  Take GA 11 to Monticello then GA 83 to I-75 on to Macon
rest the same as from Atlanta - total 187
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Suwannee
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Atlanta -
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Winder -
bulletAdd at least another hour to drive time.  Maps to come later

 

RIVER DATA

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