Idaho 2000

Fishing Site Map

Quick links to key items on this page:
WHEN AND WHERE TO ARRIVE
WEATHER
FISHING
ALCOHOL
WILL I BE SORE FROM RIDING
DUFFEL BAGS & PACKING GEAR
CLOTHES
PERSONAL NEEDS
MAJOR ITEMS
MISCELLANEOUS
CANCELLATION POLICY
FOOD
COST
   

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Could not get one night reservations at Sawtooth Rentals & Motel due to holiday weekend, so forget the nice picture overlooking the Salmon River on the right.  

Note:  Reservations made for:- Preferences so far:
1 room 2 queen beds  - 4 people $94.80 [Rick, ?,?,?]
1 room 2 queen beds  - 2 people $77.28 [Arnold, Mingus]
1 room 2 queen beds  - 2 people $77.28 [Mullinax, Leon Mullins]
Confirmation #'s:
arrive 9/1 - depart 9/2 E323019,20,21
arrive 9/7 - depart 9/8 E341012,13,14

So reservations have been made at:
Mountain Village Lodge  http://www.mountainvillage.com/

Fresh Air

P.O. Box 150 - Stanley, ID 83278
(800)843-5475 - (208)774-3661 - Fax (208)774-3761

Summer Season Rates
Effective 5/22/00 thru 9/30/00

Number of
People

Rate + Tax

Senior Rates
(55 + Yrs or AARP)

1 - 2

74.00 + 8.88 = $82.88 69.00 + 8.28 = $77.28

3

79.00 + 9.48 = $88.48 74.00 + 8.88 = $82.88

4

84.00 + 10.08 = $94.08 79.00 + 9.48 = $88.48

5

89.00 + 10.68 = $99.68 84.00 + 10.08 = $94.08

Confirmation Numbers: E323019, E323020, E323021
Arrival 09/01 - 1 night      Deposit Due on 08/02/2000

***All standard rooms come with satellite television, VCR, telephone, in-room coffee maker, and two queen size beds. All guests may enjoy free use of our PRIVATE, NATURAL, HOT SPRING.  Other special rooms and rates below:

Suite 100: Includes two bedrooms, each with a queen size bed. Plus, a queen size hide-a-way bed in the living area. Also, has satellite T.V. with VCR, in-room coffee maker, telephone, and a small refrigerator. Sleeps up to 6 people.
90.00 + 10.80 = $100.80

Suite 216: Includes two bedrooms, each with a queen size bed, and a queen size bed in the living area(no couch). Also, has satellite T.V. with VCR, microwave, in-room coffee maker, and telephone. Sleeps up to 6 people.
95.00 + 11.40 = $106.40

Suite 231: Includes two bedrooms, each with a queen size bed. Plus, a queen size hide-a-way bed in the living area. Also, has satellite T.V. with VCR, microwave, in-room coffee maker, telephone, microwave, sink, and a small refrigerator. Sleeps up to 6 people.
100.00 + 12.00 = $112.00

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Mystic Saddle Ranch, LLC
P.O. Box 736
Challis, Idaho 83226
e-Mail info@mysticsaddleranch.com
Web Page: http://www.mysticsaddleranch.com/siteindex.html
Free:  888-722-5432


Base Camp

Imogene lake is at 8200 feet above sea level with the valley floor(starting point) at about 6500 feet above sea level.  The weather can be  anything any day.   Layers are the trick.  You will be in our Indian summer with cool nights (it could be freezing but not likely) with warm days in the 70's and low 80's.  Imogene is an area that you can build camp fires so that is a plus but I would suggest bringing a propane stove as well.

Outfitter Cost

Below is an ESTIMATED cost based on six people, all riding.  By looking at your gear the night before we will be better able to judge the amount of packstock you will need.  We will only charge you for what you use even though you may have reserved more stock and did not use it.  However, from our conversation that does not seem that will be a problem. :)                                                                   

IN:
6 riding horses + 3 pack horses @$96.00/head

$864.00

2 guides @ $120.00/guide and horse

240.00

Sub total

$1104.00

OUT:
same  

$1104.00

5% state tax + 3% Forest Service Use fee

176.64

Total

   $2384.64
Divided by 6 people = $397 per person.
If we have 8 people, the cost will be $3,006 / 8 people = $375 per person.
Deposit requested $950.00 (sent to Jeff on 3/24/00) - Received confirmation from Deb on 4/10/2000
                                                         (sent balance due of 2056.72 to Deb on 7/26/00)

Deposits received from riders

age weight height
Arnold $ 150 225.75 45 165 lbs. 5' 11"
Mingus 150 225.75 45 220 lbs. 5' 10"
Mullinax 44 331.72 61 190 lbs. 6' 01"
Johnson 150 225.75 50 215 lbs. 6' 01"
Moon 150 225.75 50 150 lbs. 5' 07"
Thomas 156 220.00 50 165 lbs. 5' 11"
Gordon 150 225.75 50 220 lbs. 5' 11"
Mullins 0 375.75 74 235 lbs. 6' 5"
Paid To Outfitter $ 950.00

$2056.72

Also keep in mind fishing license @ $7 first day plus $3 each day after.  Guide tip of 10% = $37 per person.  Lodging looks like about $94 per room of 4 people = $24 x 2 nights = $48.  Van rental - John Arnold has made the following Van arrangements - Budget mini-van on hold.  Weekly rate $379 (figure $450 with tax and gas= $75/person).

375  (note: could be $397 if only 6 people)
  13
  37
  48  (note: $83 for 2 to a room)
  75
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548
+ air fare ????????.
+ Food, drinks, misc. ?????]

Getting Started          

You can get licenses and topos as well as tackle at McCoy's (208-774-3410).   Breakfast can be had at around 7:00 AM.  You will provide your own lunch but everyone will have a saddlebag.  If you let the restaurant know they can pack you a lunch or we can do it for $8.00/person.  It will take my crew until about 9:00 AM to be ready for you.  They have to feed, saddle, water and pack prior to your arrival so 9:00 is a good time for us.

On a drop camp you can take what you like.  That "what to bring list" is primarily for catered trips.

"WHAT TO BRING LIST"

this is for catered trips so some items may not apply for a drop pack trip
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WHEN AND WHERE TO ARRIVE
The closest major airport is Boise, Idaho.  You may also fly into Hailey, Idaho or Salt Lake City Utah.  From the airport you may rent a car, take a air taxi, or van shuttle to Stanley.   We would be happy to make these arrangements for you. On packaged trips this service is provided.
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Arrival/Departure Schedules
Rick, Bubba, Bruce,and Leroy
arrive Boise 12:16 9-1-00 Delta Flt. 377
depart Boise 09:41 9-8-00 Sky West Air Flt. 3901
John Arnold
arrive Boise 12:17 09-01-00 Delta Flt. 1137
depart Boise 09:41 09/08/00 Southwest Flt. 3901
Mike Mingus
arrive Boise 12:19 09-01-00 Delta 1137
depart Boise
Mullinax and Mullins
arrive by land 08/31/00
depart by land 09/08/00
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John Arnold has made the following Van arrangements:
Budget mini-van on hold.  Weekly rate $379 (figure $450 with tax and gas).
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Hike Itinerary

Thur.
8/31

Fri.
9/01
Sat.
9/02
Sun.
9/03
Mon.
9/04
Tues.
9/05
Wed.
9/06
Thur.
9/07
Fri.
9/08

Leon/John
arrive Stanley
meet outfitter

John/Leon meet group in Boise to
help bring gear to motel.- 3 hr. drive
Check in motel, meet outfitter,
turn over gear, Get fishing license,
order pack lunches for next day.
Supper at Restaurant.
7:00 AM
7:30 eat
8:30 drive to
trail head.
9:00 Saddle up
and ride em
out.
free free free free Saddle up
for return to
Motel
Early depart
to Boise
good 3 hr.
drive
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LODGING BEFORE AND AFTER TRIP
Stanley has a variety of motels and cabins for your night before and night after your high mountain adventure.  We would be happy to discuss your needs  and make the reservation for you or get you a list of lodges and let you make your own reservation.
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WEATHER
Mountain weather can be everything every day.  Come prepared for lows in the high 30's and highs in the high 80's.  Layering is the answer to enjoying your time in the mountains.
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MEDICAL EMERGENCY
Each guide carries a first aid kit and is trained in first aide and CPR.  Radios or cellar phone do not work in our wilderness so if an emergency arose that needed additional medical help one of the guides would ride out to get additional assistance. Getting a message to you while you are on your trip is difficult but possible if necessary. Stanley has a medical clinic with an excellent nurse practitioner, a community full of EMT's and an ambulance that can transport to Sun Valley. Life Flight also comes into our valley.
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TIPS FOR GUIDES
If your guides do a great job for you they really appreciate a tip.   We suggest 5-10% of total trip cost divided among your guides.
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ALCOHOL
Please plan to provide your own and keep it separate from your duffel.  We will pack it in the food boxes when you arrive at the trail head.
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WILDLIFE
Some of the wildlife that you can expect to see while you are on your trip are deer, elk, an occasional Mountain Sheep or Moose. In the Sawtooth Wilderness you may rarely see a black bear.  In the Frank Church Wilderness black bear are more prevalent but are not a problem.  We also have small animals such as ground squirrels, picas and a variety of birds.
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BUGS
The later in the season you come the less mosquitoes you will encounter.  Early morning and just as the sun sets are the worst times.  Plan to bring a insect repellent with you.
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TOILET FACILITIES ON TRIP
Some of the lakes that we travel to have outhouses at the lakes.  If they do not, we provide small shovels to dig a cat hole  or pack in a portable toilet while we are at our base camp.
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SLEEPING ARRANGEMENTS ON TRIP
We have 4-6 man tents and we normally put 2 people in.  If you are a single on a trip we are happy to provide you with your own tent.  You are also welcome to sleep under the stars.
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FOOD ON TRIP/SNACKS
Bring your own food and cooking gear.   This includes a lunch break for the ride in.
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WILL I BE SORE FROM RIDING
Unless you ride everyday you can expect to experience some soreness from riding.  We have never lost any one from being too sore from riding!  The trick is to get off and walk occasionally or ask your guide for a break.
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WHAT ABOUT GOOD WATER TO DRINK
We camp beside a good spring at our base camps.  We provide water filters and we do recommend that all water is filtered or boiled.  The springs are safe with wonderful mountain water.  Plan to have a water bottle for when you are away from the base camp.
Note: Rick, Bruce and Mullinax will have filters.
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BEARS AND SNAKES
Because of the terrain and elevation we have no snakes in the high country and very few bears. 
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SAMPLE ITINERARY
We do have sample itineraries of our trips.  If you would like to have us send you one just let us know.  Every trip is customized to meet the needs of the group so activities and events change with each group we take.
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CANCELLATION POLICY
We required a 40% deposit to confirm your reservation.  Balance on the trip is due 45 days prior to arrival.  The deposit it nonrefundable but may be applied toward trips at a later date not to exceed one year.  If cancellation is necessary the balance will be refunded up to 45 days before the trip starting date.  If notice of cancellation is received 45 days or less before trips starting date, no refunds can be made.
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ABOUT OUR AREA
The Sawtooth Wilderness lies in the high country of central Idaho about an hour's drive from famous Sun Valley.  This is a wilderness of spectacular beauty.  The three hundred miles of trail lead you through glacial valleys, alpine meadows and snow fed streams. The The Sawtooth Wilderness which is a part of the Sawtooth National Recreational Area offers a variety of outdoor activities. Ghost towns, white water float trips,   mountain biking and hiking are just a few of the many things to do in the valley.  Plan to come early or stay a few days after your trip to explore this beautiful and peaceful valley.  We are happy to answer any other questions that you may have.  Give us a call.

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DUFFEL BAGS & PACKING GEAR
Plan to pack your gear in a soft duffel bag-Based on a 5 day trip. Limit your gear to 40 pounds please.  All your gear should be packed in sturdy duffel bags except for daypack, camera, fishing pole and tackle, raingear and a jacket.  These items should be held out BEFORE our packers start to wrap and load your gear.  Your sleeping bag can be packed in its stuff sack and mattress pads should be rolled and strapped or tied.  Fishing poles should be protected in hard tube cases.  Poles and tackle will be carried on top of pack horses.  Two small duffel bags are much better than one big, heavy one.  We recommend labeling all gear with name or initials.  Breakable items should be well-padded inside duffel bags.  Please be sure and tell our packers which bags contain breakables BEFORE they start loading.

WHEN FLYING IN:  Your possessions will usually arrive unharmed if you adequately pad any breakables.  We suggest you lock the zippers. Be sure and check that the bag is correctly label for your destination.  It doesn't hurt to ask the check-in person to double check.Place identification on the inside of the duffel as well.

CAMERAS: and equipment should have water-resistant and padded cases.  We recommend you carry your camera with you as you'll probably want to take
pictures of most our great country.
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CLOTHES
Be sure and pay careful attention to our clothing list.  The trick in the mountains is to layer your clothing so that as the days grow warm and the evenings cool you can add or subtract as needed.  Be sure and bring good rain gear.  The mountains are unpredictable and afternoon thundershowers are not uncommon.
1 pair comfortable camp shoes
1 pair hard soled riding shoes or boots
plenty of socks
"moleskin"-especially if your shoes are new
underwear and t-shirts as needed
1 pair long johns(not cotton)
1-2 light weight shirts(long sleeves)
1 medium/heavy weight shirt
2-3 pair denim jeans
1 warm jacket
1 rain slicker or complete rain suit
1 knit stocking cap
1 hat with brim(cowboy or baseball)
1 pair gloves

FOOTWEAR:  Bring well broken-in sturdy hiking boots if you plan to do much walking.  Riding boots with a well defined heel are safer and usually more comfortable for riding.  Wool socks with 100% cotton liners are great for feet sensitive to blisters or sweating.  Tennis shoes or hard soled slip-ons are great for camp wear.  Bring a few "moleskin" cushions if you are prone to blisters and pad touchy spots at the first sign of trouble.

RAIN GEAR: This is a must!  Bring good quality pants and jacket or poncho.   Cheap plastic will tear easily. Be sure rain gear is large enough to fit over layered clothing.

LONG JOHNS & STOCKING CAP: A great thing to sleep in and will be handy if we run into some unusually cold weather.
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PERSONAL NEEDS
toiletry items
1 washcloth
1 small towel
prescription medications/vitamins
sunglasses and/or prescription glasses
sunscreen
lip balm
insect repellent

We will provide a group first aid kit and trained certified personnel.  If you regularly use items such as antacids,  decongestants, rash or hemorrhoid ointment, eye drops, pain relievers, etc.. we suggest you bring your own supply. Sunscreen is a must. Please notify us of any special medical considerations ie diabetic, allergic to bee stings, etc...

SPECIAL DIETARY REQUEST:  Please let us know if you have specific needs when it comes to the food being served on the trip.  We are happy to accommodate special request.
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MAJOR ITEMS
1 sleeping bag with stuff sack and sleeping pad-we recommend fiber fill II with a temperature rating of  at least 20 degrees
1 daypack
1 extra stuff sack for laundry or stuff to make pillow

SLEEPING BAGS & PADS:  We recommend a bag filled with good quality of synthetic insulation that is rated to at least 20 degrees.  It's possible
for night temperature to dip near freezing even in the summer."Down" bags are not recommended because if they get wet they will not keep you warm and are very hard to dry out. Mattress pads are a must.  A good choice is a "Therm-a-Rest"  or other foam type pad. Air mattress that you have to blow up do not work.

DAYPACK:  This is a great way to keep your gear organized for day treks from camp. Most of the horses will have saddle bags and it will be easy to put your personal gear in them when on the horse.
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MISCELLANEOUS
water bottle
camera and equipment/lots of film!
flashlight and extra batteries
fishing pole and tackle
small repair kit:needle, thread,safety pins, etc.
2 heavy duty large plastic trash bags
assorted "Ziploc" storage bags
PLEASE DO NOT BRING: guns, pets, portable radios/players, etc...
You may rent sleeping bags and foam pads for $30.00 per trip (By reservation only)


SUGGESTIONS ON SUMMER GEAR

CLOTHING: Plan to dress in lightweight layers.  It will be chilly or cold in the morning and get warmer as the day goes along.  Be able to peel off
layers.  Clothing should be comfortably baggy to allow freedom of movement and sufficient roominess in order to layer clothing.


If you have additional questions that this information does not answer be
sure and contact us at:
Deb & Jeff Bitton
Mystic Saddle Ranch
Stanley, Idaho 83278
Toll Free - 1-888-722-5432
208-774-3591 or 774-3455 fax (May 15-September 30th)
208-879-5071 or 208-879-5069 fax (September 30-May 15)
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FISHING
FISHING LICENSE: Can be purchased locally before you pack in. 
With so many lakes in the Sawtooth Wilderness and streams and rivers in the beautiful Middle Fork of the Salmon River in the Frank Church Wilderness fishing is always available at our camping sites.  We will be happy to help you rent fishing equipment and tackle prior to your arrival as well as obtain a fishing license. $7.50 for first day non-resident licenses and $3.00/day for add on days.  There is also lots of fishing, both lake and stream, in the valley floor.

McCoy Tackle Shop - Phone (208) 774 -3410

MORE FISHING INFO