Ethics and Morality in the Gay and Lesbian Community Page 3 Text Only
| Loyalty is valued in just about every
community. In the same way, loyalty is highly prized in the gay community. Having a gay
friend on whom you can count is rare but then this applies to straight friends as well.
Even more rare is the friend that you can trust with your lover or vise versa. It is pandemic in the straight community to find wives mixing it up with husband's best friend,or husbands mixing it up with wife's friends or even sisters. One has to just wonder what all the hoopla is about when a straight person point fingers at a gay person for fickle behavior or downright promiscuity. But let's just get one thing straight(so to speak). Whether straight or gay, men tend to be similar in behavior when it comes to loyalty and faithfulness. The same could be said for women. Unfortunately, in our country, we have no sanction for a permanent union since our relationships have been trivialized by the straight community. Thus, continuing the myth that there is nothing but sex going on in gay relationships. And such thinking perpetuates the thought that a gay relationship is short term. In point of fact, there is some evidence to believe that the percent of gay couples in any one age group is a mirror image of the same number of straight couples that have been together for similar lengths of time. Gay persons form bonds of commitment that last lifetimes. The country can legislated against our legal commitments but it cannot prevent us from making moral and ethical ones. Like the phoenix, the gay community has risen from the ashes in the ghettos of Germany and the gutter of the misinformed American public to say: I DO to our lovers and I WILL to our friends. We are no worse or better than the general population. We ARE BASICALLY GOOD. |
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Having a true friend who is also straight is really unusual. But when we have one it is wonderful. The very reason it is so hard to have a straight friend is why it is so wonderful.
Most of us know that if a straight person really knows who we are, they would not accept us. We know how a portion of the general population feels. Therefore we steer clear of people that are "out of community".
We also know that those of you who do want to be friends are fearful that by some connection with us you believe that others will think you are "queer". Trust me. Most of us understand. Remember many of us have spent years in therapy and denial trying to deal with the fact that we are "queer".
Then there are the straight people who want to have a gay friend because it is politically correct. These people claim a gay friend in a fashion similar to the way they claim a pet. Thank you, but no thank you. We need to be loved as a person, please.
"A friend is one who knows all about you and loves you just the same."
"A friend is one who understands where you've been, accepts who you've become and still invites you to grow."
"I have befriended him(the fox) and now he is unique in all the world" from The Little Prince
To those of the straight community that have befriended a gay or lesbian person, I(we) give you heartfelt thanks. You have mastered the level of human existence that says you can look beyond prejudice and fear and see the person, one of God's children. Being able to do that alone will give you light in your life.
And you bring light into our life as well. Remember, most of the gay community has delt with rejection most of their life. To cross over is to say to one of us that we are loveable to you. Most gay and lesbian persons have not known that from straight people.
"Let your light so shine before God...
"God bless us every one."
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| Someone requested a commentary on age
differences. There are no real moral or ethical implications of dating a person older or
younger than yourself. Most people do find an attraction to someone a few years older or
younger. So one must assume that we are talking of grossly differing age differences.
These would be age differences of 10, 20, or 30 years. The first thing that needs to be determined is if there is an unhealthy reason for not choosing a person of ones similar age. This would be true of the predatory adult who needs to control and manipulate another person and therefore seeks a weaker type of person who sometimes is also younger. This type of predatory person is dangerous and may be violent. Now, having said that I must say that my own mother married a man 10 years her senior and was quite happy. She was widowed at 51 though. And an older friend of mine married a man 20 years her senior and she was very happy! So it can work. What do you need to think about in such a situation? Well, most of the time the older person will miss having a person to share generational things(like songs that were popular when they were 15 etc.). The two people need to be certain that they have common interests and goals. This is very important. I have known people who are almost like chameleons in their likes, interests and attitudes. These people will change all their views to match the person whom they are dating. You want a person who can contribute to your life-not duplicate yours. You never want to get involved in a rescue mission. This occurs when you want to show the person the world, or save them from something. If you want to help, help. Don't get INVOLVED. If you play rescuer, you will generally end up the victim. You want to be certain that the person with whom you are getting involved shares a similar lifestyle. There are always adjustment problems in every relationship so don't get excited about every little problem. However, if one of you wants to go out every night and the other wants to stay home every night, neither will be happy. You may find a compromise. The question is " How long will the compromise last?" If you are bound and determined to have this relationship work and the other party is just as determined as you, then you can make it work. The most important thing is being realistic and reasonable. |
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| Knowing if and when to get married This is amed at straight couples but I think most of the commentary about necessary ingredients is helpful. |
May-December Romance Responses to a forum about their experiences. | How about age differences in Fiction-Jane Eyre | A Study on Lesbian Battering If you are into Psychology |
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| "Certainly one measure of power inequality in marital relationships is the age difference of spouses. Over the course of this century, as female rights have increased the age advantage of husbands over wives has declined from roughly 4 years to 2. According to the 1994 NORC General Social Survey, wives are older than their husbands in 17.5% of American couples and equal in age in an additional 13.4%. The more education the wife has the more likely she will be the same age or older than her spouse, from 21% of those without a high school diploma to 37% of those with at least some post-secondary education. " From Sociology of the Family |
| Growing up as a child who is gay is
not easy. One certainly learns very quickly that gay is "not acceptable." It is the fear that one will be found out that governs ones life. It is the belief that telling anyone would be a sheer disaster. Whether or not this is true remains to be seen. Nevertheless the torment that one feels is sometimes overwhelming. It is this very fear that often leads to lying to family, friends, and co-workers. It is this lying that leads to alienation from friends and co-workers. This is due to the feeling that one never really knows if one would be accepted for whom they really are. I suspect that those who discover that they are gay in their twenties suffer as well. The major difference is that those of us, who have known all along that we were gay, have dealt with it longer. If you are straight, then imagine this: You do the best you can. You spend many, many lonely nights. When you talk to people that you find interesting you ask telling questions, talk about diversity, openness. You hope to find a kindred soul. Trust me; you are not hoping to convert anyone. You just want a friend. You also want a lover someday (soon) who is someone who chooses you. Ah but we do work it out, gradually. And we eventually go to work. Only, we find out that we can be fired by our bosses if they find out. Oh, even if they only guess, the boss may just make life hell for you. You find that the work hours that you are assigned are the worst. You notice that your evaluations go gradually down. And you have been working as hard or harder. You ask your boss but he doesnt give you a valid answer. And so it goes.. This all plays out in the mind of the young gay male or lesbian.
It effects each of us differently. Some of us withdraw, withdraw withdraw. Some of us
spend our lives in and out of therapy either trying to become straight of trying to accept
our being gay. Some of us go on the offensive. There are some very hostile members of our
group. They probably have good reason to be hostile. The hostile ones are in the minority.
Most of us just quietly live our lives choosing our friends very carefully and going about
our business discretely. You don't notice us much unless we write web pages. ;-) None of us ever forgets the torment or the fear. None of us is ever completely free of the fear that one day some angry straight person will try to harm us just because we are queer. But then, in our society, just about anyone is a target anymore.
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| Is being disabled about the same for a
gay person as a straight person? It probably is except in one major respect. Gay establishments do not generally lend themselves to easy access. A person in a wheelchair will find some difficulty in being able to go to a gay bar or a gay restaurant. This is changing gradually. Most gay places have too little money to provide access. The Otherside lounges in Atlanta, and Orlando and Ft. Lauderdale are exceptions. I do not know a lot about the personal problems of hearing impaired, visually or mobility challenged persons. I am growing older though and things happen as you grow older. I have a great deal of difficulty with stairs. I do not think of these problems as other people's problems. I think of them as my problems. This then goes to the question of what are the moral and ethical issues relating to physically challenged persons and their associates? There are those who say that a physical challenged person is being challenged by God for some reason. 1. My God restores humans to complete use of the body and soul. Don't even begin with the old God's retribution stuff. So much for morality. 2. If you are physically challenged, you are having to struggle with one more thing in life. Still someone else is having to struggle with yet another. As humans, the most important thing that we must master is relationships: relationships between ourselves and God, relationships between ourselves and others, and so on. From the standpoint of the non-physically challenged, you must try to grow toward mastering the acceptance, love and interaction with all persons including the handicapped. From the standpoint of the physically challenged, you must try to grow toward mastering acceptance, love and interaction with all persons including those who are not handicapped. And as you grow try to rise above the prejudice and ugliness that you could not have helped but seeing and forgive those who are unkind to you. You have yet another challenge. Yours is to teach and educate others about yourself. You have a lot to offer. Show the world that God doesn't make junk! Not gay junk! Not handicapped junk! Not gay and handicapped junk! |
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| For centuries, the gay
population has had to deal with all kinds of preducices and hate. It is a shame that the
gay population has had to suffer the cruetly of being ignored first by our doctors and
then by our own government in the fight against AIDS. A parallel but not as striking example is the same lack of concern or interest that women's diseases have had. Historically, the fight against disease has been a personal and political one. Those with power and money were able to invest in research and medicines to prevent or cure disease. Historically also, there have always been those persons who, for whatever reason, enjoyed our misfortune. Shame, shame!!! On the level of ethics and moralty, it is my personal opinion that no person, including gay and lesbian persons, ever deserve illness or death for merely being who they are. It is further astounding that any illness is tolerated. While we as a society still are seeking cures for cancer, heart disease and numerous other cripling, debilitating and fatal diseases, the needs of our community must not be ignored. We must support our community in the fight against aids, breast cancer and all forms of disease.. |
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