Newsgroups: alt.slack

Subject: CON WINS, I ALMOST GIVE UP [XPosted cuz not everyone here reads a.b.s.]

From: Rev. Ivan Stang <i.stang@subgenius.com>

Date: 21 May 1998 15:32:22 EDT

 

FUCK IT ALL, ANYWAY. The Church of the SubGenius is now The Church of the

Inside Joke, and it won't bother any Christians or other religious nuts,

any more.

Sterno, Puzzling Evidence, Philo and GGG: I have finally come around. You

guys were right. YOU WON!! Us "Bobbies" and geeks lost. The Inside Joke is

all that's left now. This is what I get for making fun of other people's

religions. Serves me fucking right. I'll bet that the only people who show

up at X-Day are weirdos who believe in "Bob" and Slack. Dumbasses. Boy,

will *I* be missing out.

 

 

To: i.stang@metronet.com

From: Simple|Net <abuse.review@simplenet.com>

Subject: Account Suspension:subgenius.com

Cc: slack@metronet.com

 

 

 

Account name: subgenius.com

 

We have received numerous complaints that your account is involved in

violations of SimpleNets' policies. Your account was originally activated

based on your review and acceptance of those policies. You have contracted

to be bound by the provisions of the policies. To refresh your memory

concerning our policies please refer to

http://www.simplenet.com/policies.html

 

SIMPLENET HAS SUSPENDED YOUR WEB ACCOUNT. YOU HAVE 72 HOURS WITHIN WHICH

YOU CAN BRING YOUR ACCOUNT INTO COMPLIANCE. FAILURE TO COMPLY WILL RESULT

IN CANCELLATION.

 

It is most likely that the complaints relate to but are not limited to;

adult content, unsolicited e-mail (spam), mp3 files, or copyright

violations.

 

We appreciate your support of SimpleNet as your service provider and desire

to continue to serve you. To that end we encourage you to bring your

account into compliance within the time allowed. Unfortunately we are not

in a position to aid you in this task, compliance is your responsibility.

 

Thank you for your anticipated actions to remain a valuable SimpleNet customer.

 

Thank you,

SimpleNet

 

--

Copyright 1998 by Rev. Ivan Stang / 1st Orthodox Stangian

MegaFisTemple Lodge of People's Covenant Church of the

Wrath of Dobbs Yeti, Resurrected / The SubGenius Foundation,Inc.

PO Box 140306 Dallas TX 75214 / Fax 214-320-1561 / PRABOB

http://www.subgenius.com -- SubSITE of Slack

 

From kevbob.AlLsPaM@ecsis.net Thu May 21 14:58:57 1998

Newsgroups: alt.slack

Subject: Re: CON WINS, I ALMOST GIVE UP [XPosted cuz not everyone here reads a.b.s.]

From: "kevbob" <kevbob.AlLsPaM@ecsis.net>

Date: 21 May 1998 21:58:57 GMT

 

Rev. Ivan Stang <i.stang@subgenius.com> wrote in article

<supersede.i.stang-ya02408000R2005981816380001@enews.newsguy.com>...

> Account name: subgenius.com

 

you own the domain name.

 

find a decent host and move.

 

people get evicted all the time.

 

suck it up,

 

and move on.

 

 

--

"the middle is hard."

 

From friday@subgenius.com Thu May 21 16:36:03 1998

Newsgroups: alt.slack,alt.binaries.slack

Subject: Re: CON WINS, I ALMOST GIVE UP [XPosted cuz not everyone here reads a.b.s.]

From: friday@subgenius.com (IrRev. Friday Jones)

Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 19:36:03 -0400

 

In article

<supersede.i.stang-ya02408000R2005981816380001@enews.newsguy.com>,

i.stang@subgenius.com (Rev. Ivan Stang) wrote:

 

 

>To: i.stang@metronet.com

>From: Simple|Net <abuse.review@simplenet.com>

>Subject: Account Suspension:subgenius.com

>Cc: slack@metronet.com

>

>

>

>Account name: subgenius.com

>

>We have received numerous complaints that your account is involved in

>violations of SimpleNets' policies. Your account was originally activated

>based on your review and acceptance of those policies. You have contracted

>to be bound by the provisions of the policies. To refresh your memory

>concerning our policies please refer to

>http://www.simplenet.com/policies.html

>

>SIMPLENET HAS SUSPENDED YOUR WEB ACCOUNT. YOU HAVE 72 HOURS WITHIN WHICH

>YOU CAN BRING YOUR ACCOUNT INTO COMPLIANCE. FAILURE TO COMPLY WILL RESULT

>IN CANCELLATION.

>

>It is most likely that the complaints relate to but are not limited to;

>adult content, unsolicited e-mail (spam), mp3 files, or copyright

>violations.

>

>We appreciate your support of SimpleNet as your service provider and desire

>to continue to serve you. To that end we encourage you to bring your

>account into compliance within the time allowed. Unfortunately we are not

>in a position to aid you in this task, compliance is your responsibility.

>

>Thank you for your anticipated actions to remain a valuable SimpleNet customer.

>

>Thank you,

>SimpleNet

 

Went over to www.simplenet.com and peeked at their policies page and I

think I may have found the problem -

 

* Lawful Purpose

*SimpleNet reserves the right to refuse service to anyone. Customers may

only use *SimpleNet's server for lawful purpose. Transmission of any

material in violation *of any Federal, State or Local regulation is

prohibited. This includes, but is *not limited to copyrighted material,

material legally judged to be threatening or *obscene, and material

protected by trade secrets. SimpleNet expressly forbids *anyone from using

SimpleNet's servers for the propagation, distribution, housing,

*processing, storing, or otherwise handling in any way lewd, obscene, or

*pornographic material, or any other material which we deem to be

objectionable, *including, but not limited to, pornography, satanic

materials, and any and all

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

*materials of an adult nature. The designation of any materials as such

described

* above is left entirely to the discretion of SimpleNet management.

 

 

Garsh, guess "Bob" just wasn't kiddie-safe enough for them. Anyone

interested in a lawsuit re: religious discrimination against Satanists?

 

 

From i.stang@subgenius.com Thu May 21 16:41:08 1998

Newsgroups: alt.slack

Subject: Re: CON WINS, I ALMOST GIVE UP [XPosted cuz not everyone here reads a.b.s.]

From: i.stang@subgenius.com (Rev. Ivan Stang)

Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 17:41:08 -0600

 

In article <i.stang-ya02408000R2005981816380001@enews.newsguy.com>,

i.stang@subgenius.com (Rev. Ivan Stang) wrote:

 

> FUCK IT ALL, ANYWAY. The Church of the SubGenius is now The Church of the

> Inside Joke, and it won't bother any Christians or other religious nuts,

> any more.

>

 

> SIMPLENET HAS SUSPENDED YOUR WEB ACCOUNT. YOU HAVE 72 HOURS WITHIN WHICH

> YOU CAN BRING YOUR ACCOUNT INTO COMPLIANCE. FAILURE TO COMPLY WILL RESULT

> IN CANCELLATION.

>

 

 

Folks, I will admit that I had a REAL rough day yesterday. When someone

else got home from work, she took one look at me and could tell by the

thousand-yard-stare that I was NOT in good shape. She helped straighten

everything out... so did my old grizzled buddies, Sterno and GGGordon. I

was kinda bent out of shape. Sometimes I wonder if maybe I shouldn't TRY

antidepressants.

 

It started with the air conditioner breaking. I guess it just ran out of

Freon or whatever gas they use now. It's still getting power. But... this

is Texas. My office is full of electronic machines and tape decks and video

decks and etc., that are all running all the time. It's 90 fucking degrees

in here.

 

And my broken tooth hurts.

 

And I have sometimes felt like I was damned if I do, and damned if I don't.

Sometimes it seems like all my old buddy SubGenius compadres and

collaborators, the Original Apostles, think I only pay attention to the NEW

Doktors, ranters and Internet Subs... while all the newer SubGenii accuse

me of only hanging with my old-timer Hierarchite buddies.

 

This is not actually the way it IS. it just started to SEEM that way. I got

a couple of emails that I took the wrong way.

 

And then to find out that SimpleNet had CANCELED SubSITE.... JEEEZ!

 

Things are getting back to normal though. I have a fan pulling cool air

from downstairs. SimpleNet won't EVEN tell us what we did that violates

rules; they just want us GONE. I have a suspicion that SimpleNet is caving

in either to the Bob-Larsonite Christian fundamentalists or the dedicated

Spammers, neither of whom can bear criticism. I dunno... they won't say.

 

Luckily, Modemac IMMEDIATELY told us about "bluegravity.com"... Jesus

phoned 'em and it looks like we'll (SIGH) move the website AGAIN. (This'll

be the third move in 3 months.) Popess Lilith also mentioned a possible

non-chickenshit server.

 

We made fun of religions. We showed naked people. We cussed.

 

AND BY HOOK OR BY CROOK, WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO!!!

 

--

Copyright 1998 by Rev. Ivan Stang / 1st Orthodox Stangian

MegaFisTemple Lodge of People's Covenant Church of the

Wrath of Dobbs Yeti, Resurrected / The SubGenius Foundation,Inc.

PO Box 140306 Dallas TX 75214 / Fax 214-320-1561 / PRABOB

http://www.subgenius.com -- SubSITE of Slack

 

--

Copyright 1998 by Rev. Ivan Stang / 1st Orthodox Stangian

MegaFisTemple Lodge of People's Covenant Church of the

Wrath of Dobbs Yeti, Resurrected / The SubGenius Foundation,Inc.

PO Box 140306 Dallas TX 75214 / Fax 214-320-1561 / PRABOB

http://www.subgenius.com -- SubSITE of Slack

 

From e/wbear@hibernia.ca Thu May 21 18:13:11 1998

Newsgroups: alt.slack

Subject: Re: CON WINS, I ALMOST GIVE UP [XPosted cuz not everyone here reads a.b.s.]

From: e/wbear@hibernia.ca (e/w bear)

Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 01:13:11 GMT

 

In article <i.stang-ya02408000R2105981741080001@enews.newsguy.com>,

i.stang@subgenius.com (Rev. Ivan Stang) wrote:

 

> In article <i.stang-ya02408000R2005981816380001@enews.newsguy.com>,

> i.stang@subgenius.com (Rev. Ivan Stang) wrote:

>

> > FUCK IT ALL, ANYWAY. The Church of the SubGenius is now The Church of the

> > Inside Joke, and it won't bother any Christians or other religious nuts,

> > any more.

> >

>

 

Someone once told me (maybe it was my dad) that making enemies is a sure

sign that you're doing the right thing. Now if the only way to know you're

actually free is to speak out about what you truly believe, then enemies

you will make. Take it for what it is. A mark of achievement.

 

As for Bob... he may be a myth, but like all myths he's grounded in

reality. The legend of a solitary figure who turns against the conspiracy

to fight for the common people is a classic tale that rings true for a lot

of folks. There may not be any flying saucers, and our friends and lovers

may have to stand in for the Love Goddesses (not a bad alternative

really)... but you and I both know the Con is real. It ain't no joke

brother, and fighting it is what it's all about. If this wasn't true, then

the Church would not have survived as long as it has.

 

Anyway, that's my dos centavos on the subject, and for once I'm not just

blowing wind. Take it as a note of thanks for all the fine work you folks

have done over the years. I've been watching and listening, and so have a

lot of other folks.

 

e/w bear / AKA Dr. Vole

 

damn right! I ponied up my $30.

Don't think I'd miss out on the end-times did you?

 

From i.stang@subgenius.com Thu May 21 13:03:51 1998

Newsgroups: alt.binaries.slack,alt.slack

Subject: Re: CON WINS, I ALMOST GIVE UP

From: i.stang@subgenius.com (Rev. Ivan Stang)

Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 14:03:51 -0600

 

In article <3564413F.10AEC3B1@erols.com>, "König Preuße, GmbH"

<bbombere@erols.com> wrote:

 

 

>

> Kinda fukked! It does appear that the Subsit is down--

>

> I did an Alta Vista search, and got 2200 hits for CosG,

> so, there is still plenty of stuff online, which is a good thing

> or we would be reduced to talking to each other.

>

> Koenig Preusse, GmbH

 

Hell, for all I know, the copies at sunsite.unc.edu and that OTHER server

are still there! And of course there must be a hundred SuBG spin-off

sites, praise "Bob."

 

But... it's the fact that they won't even admit to WHY they want us out,

that's what really pisses me off. Why can't they just come out and say,

"We're decent church going people, or else we have friends who are, and we

cannot allow criticism, because... well, that's how much FAITH we have."

 

Chickenshits...

 

--

Copyright 1998 by Rev. Ivan Stang / 1st Orthodox Stangian

MegaFisTemple Lodge of People's Covenant Church of the

Wrath of Dobbs Yeti, Resurrected / The SubGenius Foundation,Inc.

PO Box 140306 Dallas TX 75214 / Fax 214-320-1561 / PRABOB

http://www.subgenius.com -- SubSITE of Slack

 

From i.stang@subgenius.com Thu May 21 16:20:58 1998

Newsgroups: alt.binaries.slack,alt.slack

Subject: Re: CON WINS, I ALMOST GIVE UP

From: i.stang@subgenius.com (Rev. Ivan Stang)

Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 17:20:58 -0600

 

In article <35648cac.2420603@news.io.com>, gggor@io.com (G. G. Gordon) wrote:

 

> On Thu, 21 May 1998 13:42:52 -0600, i.stang@subgenius.com (Rev. Ivan

> Stang) wrote:

>

> >

> >

> >We made fun of religions. We showed naked people. We cussed.

> >

> >AND BY HOOK OR BY CROOK, WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO!!!

> >

> Praise "Bob" and Praise Ivan Stang and fuck all of the rest of 'em but

> six, and save those just to be pallbearers. You see what we're up

> against, you see the type of mentality that has entered the internet

> bzness since aol came into being...I call for a large scale internet

> listing of all servers with censorship clauses and by the way my wife

> the civil rights law firm's right hand is checking this out, might be

> we can sue the living pee-wadding out of simplenet for restriction of

> freedom of speech...I mean Subsite????

> If Simplenet wasn't so neofascist it would be stupid...wait a

> minute...

 

THANKS!

 

But on the other hand, SimpleNet certainly has the right to refuse service.

We were paying SimpleNet for a service; they took the pay and did the

service; they got freaked out for whatever reason and decided they didn't

want our business. They aren't restricting anybody's freedom of speech,

because I can always hire a different web server, and PROBABLY HAVE (Jesus

has been talking to bluegravity.com and we're practically making the move

right now already -- THANKS, MODEMAC, for the HINT!). Hell, if push came to

shove, I could go buy and read the book on web servers, BUY a fucking web

server machine, get the LINES INSTALLED, and start a new business as a web

server. HUMANS do it ALL THE TIME! But I'd MUCH rather that part of it be

done by somebody who knows what the hell they're doing. Heck, for about 2

months, we HAD our own server. It's just that the LINES it was on were

being eaten up by our high traffic and RealAudio spew.

 

I certainly fault SimpleNet for being too chickenshit to even tell us what

prompted this. (Probably two hate letters from Bob Larson fundamentalists).

It's not like they didn't know what we DO. Jesus talked to them at great

length about how offensive and horrible and awful and huge our website is,

and at that time they acted all "FREE SPEECH" about it.

 

Yeah, right, until they got the one threatening letter from the little old

Christian lady or the shut-in Scientologist or the pro-spam psycho.

 

FEH!!!

 

EH!!!

 

DEH!!!

 

--

Copyright 1998 by Rev. Ivan Stang / 1st Orthodox Stangian

MegaFisTemple Lodge of People's Covenant Church of the

Wrath of Dobbs Yeti, Resurrected / The SubGenius Foundation,Inc.

PO Box 140306 Dallas TX 75214 / Fax 214-320-1561 / PRABOB

http://www.subgenius.com -- SubSITE of Slack

 

From legume@subgenius.com Thu May 21 18:36:33 1998

Newsgroups: alt.binaries.slack,alt.slack

Subject: Re: CON WINS, I ALMOST GIVE UP

From: DrLegume <legume@subgenius.com>

Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 18:36:33 -0700

 

Rev. Ivan Stang wrote:

 

> But... it's the fact that they won't even admit to WHY they want us out,

> that's what really pisses me off. Why can't they just come out and say,

> "We're decent church going people, or else we have friends who are, and we

> cannot allow criticism, because... well, that's how much FAITH we have."

How SICK I am of the Con's censorship battlecry, "Who'll protect the

children?"...

 

One day I'll kill ALL of your fucking children and make you eat their

corpses, you FUCKERS. We Yeti will have our day.

 

--

Dr.K'taden Legume

A mere vessel for Bill Patty's word.

----------------------------------------------

Life suck? Bill Patty can help!

http://members.tripod.com/~DrLegume/BillPatty.html

---------------------------------------------

Scared of Bill Patty? Then you are obviously a dumbass and deserve

nothing more enlightening than the usual Lame SubGenius Crap.

Visit the Holocaustal Website (which has nothing to do with Bill Patty)

at:

http://members.tripod.com/~DrLegume/index.html

Also Visit The "Battle of Armageddon" Website (which also has nothing to

do with Bill Patty) at:

http://members.tripod.com/~DrLegume/index-2.html

 

From e/wbear@hibernia.ca Thu May 21 17:09:12 1998

Newsgroups: alt.binaries.slack,alt.slack

Subject: Re: CON WINS, I ALMOST GIVE UP

From: e/wbear@hibernia.ca (e/w bear)

Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 00:09:12 GMT

 

In article <3564D6A1.7704@subgenius.com>, legume@subgenius.com wrote:

 

> Rev. Ivan Stang wrote:

>

> > But... it's the fact that they won't even admit to WHY they want us out,

> > that's what really pisses me off. Why can't they just come out and say,

> > "We're decent church going people, or else we have friends who are, and we

> > cannot allow criticism, because... well, that's how much FAITH we have."

> How SICK I am of the Con's censorship battlecry, "Who'll protect the

> children?"...

>

> One day I'll kill ALL of your fucking children and make you eat their

> corpses, you FUCKERS. We Yeti will have our day.

>

> --

> Dr.K'taden Legume

> A mere vessel for Bill Patty's word.

 

What I want to know is who'll protect ME from the children? I see those

little fuckers are taking the same shooting lessons they give police swat

teams. Bastards will probably drop me in an ambush before I get off my

first round. Tell you one thing, I ain't going near a school anytime soon.

We need to get some warning stickers made up to paste on those school zone

signs. "Free Fire Zone" with a couple of rifles slung over the shoulders

of those silouettes.

---

ewb